help with puppy biting

hi,
i'm after any advice i get, i got ruby almost 7 week ago, she will be 13 week old on sat, i feel really bad for saying this but i am struggling to enjoy/like her at the minute i feel like im just going through the motions
the main reason for this is her biting, i understand puppys bite for teething or just in play, and at first allthough i didnt want her biting i could cope with it while we tried the advice to get her stop such as ''yelping or subsituting for a toy'' however none of this has worked and im at a lost as to what to do, i dont like playing with her with toys ( allthough i do ) cos after a minute she bites me instead even if i swap toys, me and mum cant walk round the house/garden easily cos she bites your legs as you go past, these bites really hurt and a lot of the time she will cause my mum to bleed slightly, very ocassionally she growls and getting her off you makes her bite u more
i really dont no what else to do now, when shes not biting she is lovely but this is very little of the time, so as much as i dont want to do it i have started to put her in the kitchen while i do all what i need to and only let her out for short play times and walks, where do i go from here,
sorry for long post.

http://en.uniteddogs.com/forum/24/fl/71/t/34186

read this, "The Bite Stops Here" by Ian Dunbar.

thanks for that we have tried shouting ouch but it just seemed to make her do it more, she seems to come back for more and its usually harder lol will have to try again and walk out of the room after saying ouch see if that works

Shouting or yelping is a big no no IMHO, an adult dog will tolerant so much & when they have had enough they will make a grumpy noise & get up & walk away, however until the puppy is reaching the end of the"puppy licence" period they suffer in silence.

Puppies learn about the world with their ears, nose & mouth & they do not do real aggression at 13 weeks.

You need to start shaping her behaviour now(I start the day I get a puppy the earlier the better) My dogs learn that biting gets no reaction at all from me, not a sound not a motion. This usually stops the biting, giving me a chance to click & treat the moment the biting stops. If the puppy restarts the biting I go back to the no response & click & treat when it stops.

The exact same goes for the ankle etc biting. Not responding makes you boring & puppies don't like boring.

You can start to add a "good girl" to the click & treat.

Add to this teaching her to sit & lie down using treats & a clicker & also a play retrieve(throwing a soft tuggy or similar)clicking as soon as she picks up the toy & treating to swop the toy from her to you.

Whatever you decide to do, everyone must do the same & in the same way-consistency is the key word with puppies.

Get enrolled at a motivational reward based training club & learn how to teach her to all sorts of things that will keep her mind active.

There are so many things you can teach dogs with consistency, reward & motivation

Some good advice above.

Have you started puppy classes yet? wrestling with other young like minded dogs may take the biting edge off her a bit. It may well be a fluke, but my two young bitches do not bite or mouth me at all...I put this down partially to the fact that they play together all the time.

You don't say how much you are walking him either. Tired dogs (generally ) sleep.

thanks,
i was worried that if we cant stop her now she would grow up bitting and may hurt someone one day,
we have a training school lined up but it doesnt start for another 2 weeks as they are halfway through there current puppy class, but its a good one that we went to with are old dog,
would you recommend clicker training then ? i have never really looked into this i just use food as a reward?

lol!

Yeah course he will!

i have been having similar issues with 11 week old lily. i realise that she is not being aggressive as she is only a baby. i have adopted the 'ignore' bad behaviour theory, and she is definitely responding to me in a positive way. if she bites me i say nothing and put her down and walk away. when she is being gentle i praise her.

lily can't go out for another 2 and a half weeks because of her jabs. i do socialise her with friends puppies but i can't wait to get her into a puppy class and out walking. until then we have a puppy playground in my back garden!

what breed of dog is ruby by the way?

Yes I do as it is difficult for most people to make the same sound as a cue that the behaviour is acceptable. TBH it can only be used with treats otherwise if a toy is the reward the training stops with the first behaviour.

I like using rewards as I know I certainly would never have worked hard for someone without a tangible reward-ie money for a living

i had the same problem with jake. i tried everything too, the ignore thing worked with him. i would just ignore him or walk away from him, he would keep doing it for a few minutes and then get bored, gradually as soon as he got ignored he would give up and stop. he is 16 weeks now, and he has cut down on it alot, he still does sometimes but when he does it is a lot lighter and not nearly as sore as it used to be