My dogs would most certainly make it plain that they would not like an unknown dog so close to their personal areas. I don't know that I would discipline them for doing that (though I definitely would not allow them to be physically aggressive, I do expect them to show their dislike for unwelcome behaviour from a dog outside of their own pack). I think mine would likely give a "telling off" yap! I would allow that, followed by "quiet now" and that would be okay. That is apart from Tiani who is a total tart and always greets dogs with her bottom and would be happy to be sniffed, in fact she'd be ecstatic Can't comment on SE as I know very little about him

My dogs don't tend to do the sniffing of personal areas to outside dogs. They don't seem interested.

I have owned 20 dogs (just did a head count) and helped train a lot more,as well as having visiting dogs in and out all the time.

Several have had problems, all have been totally different from each other.

I have had many dogs running together as a group and I do believe they have a heirachy---which I am outside.

I am. after all, a human not a dog If I ask them to do something I do expect them to do it,if they don't I look for a reason and we negotiate or I ask again and expect them to do it then.

When they are learning the rules---as the pup is,they are liberally provided with titbits and/or toys as rewards for what I want them to do and they are distracted from things I would rather they didn't do.

If I say 'no' I have failed. It isn't always easy and it can be challenging and needs more thought than the way we used to train and teach.However it is SO much more fun for the owner and the pup/dog

There are things which are not negotiable---like an instant down.

Among themselves they are allowed to sort out where they are unless i feel it is getting too heavy----in which case I distract----usually it is Celt setting Champa up.

Tassle has higher expectations than I do and when she dog sits my dogs behave accordingly and the negotiation is less.

It works for me and I see no reason why it can't work for someone with one dog to train---even if it IS a 'special different' sort of dog. They are ALL special and different.

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That is sweet! No need for the

Tee hee!

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My brain is not working today. It took me ages to realise what taking the water meant!

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I was replying to Gnashers post about not allowing Tai to growl or lip curl at other dogs.....My dogs are not particularly interested in sniffing others when out and about either - accept the adolescent Lab who is very rude about it and has to be got hold of and prevented from doing so at the moment. A lie down till they have passed is working until he learns some more manners.

Sorry Tassle, you quoted me, so I thought you were talking to me Was nice to chat, anyways

I'm glad you said that your dogs are not into sniffing other dogs. Thought mine were being anti-social or something They do sniff around dogs faces if they come up but never go round to their rears. Like I said though, Tiani does this "in your face" thing to other dogs with her bum, tail wagging madly. I think she's just telling them that she's friendly and means no harm but it does look funny

Sorry guys, as things were getting a little heated in some of the conversations and I was wracking my brains to figure out what I had said that was so rude - but I left another forum because every time I posted I was shot down for being a know it all so I guess I was just getting a bit sensitive and taking things personaly

Gnasher - you said it on the JD thread, but fair nuff if it was just a windup - I know you were trying to support her

Yup its just finding what the button is that triggers them isnt it?? must be lovely to see them running, I know Ben adores coming out along with the bike with me - it is something totaly special as a human to be keeping up with the dog, really feeling the joy of just hurtling through the countryside together, I almost fall over tree roots cos I spend too much time just looking at his grinning face

So totaly true - I try and not get angry with my dogs when they do something I dont want - I try and figure out what I did wrong for them not to understand me
and cos I tend not to be angry and telling them off much at all a shout is instantly obayed cos it is so unusual - and it is only used for something dangerous

me too!!

DALMATIANS!!!

i think in general with the easier breeds, once they have been taught something, youve more or lrss taught it. with more challenging breeds you have to work harder keep up the motivation!& work harder to "back up" your work.

Also the more you do it the better, everyones first dog is abit crap & you make your mistakes, each one you learn from.

To the forced meeting/growling.

Id never tell my dog off for growing if a unwanted dog was sniffing its ass, id hold my dogs colar, put their head betwwen my legs, to stop any possible biting till the owner gets their dog away. Growling is a natural dog behaviour i see no point in stopping it, if you do you could have a no warning biter

i totaly agree with you there on both points mish!