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Originally Posted by
Tang
*as a side note - What I object to (as usual) is the OP's style of posting in a way that seems to say we wouldn't be aware of any of this 'truth' if she didn't bring it to our attention. (Or, as has happened many times) that we are somehow too stupid or blinkered to know what is going on regarding animals.
This is the internet and we can't see the OP's body language but I got the impression that she was shocked at what she saw and was reading, when we are like that things do come across different to what is intended. She does put up quite a lot of things that I wouldn't find but she doesn't think we are stupid or blinkered.
As for 'in the last few years' well - contrary to what the OP seems to think - we know it is not just in 'the last few years' that it has been a problem.
People who haven't been into dogs for long don't know that this problem has been going on for much longer. We are continually bullied to get our dogs neutered but since this started we have a lot more dogs in rescue, being abandoned etc.
But again I expect OP didn't actually realise she was posting a link from a US web page when she was urging us all to do as they tell us to do. But (again) this would go on for 20 pages before that was admitted!
There was not a word in the OP about this being so it doesn't go the same way here as it does 'across the pond'. Whatever that's supposed to mean.
It has now been edited to make it look as if they DID know that and a further paragraph added to change the 'message'
I thought we had members from the US on here and I am sure some of them would be interested in that, I like to know what my friends from 'across the pond' are having to deal with as many work in shelters.
The pond means the Atlantic so across the pond is across the Atlantic.
Originally Posted by
Tang
I just resent the implication that OP is the only one 'aware' of any of this stuff and that it requires her to wake the rest of us up to it and tell us we should be doing something about it.
I agree the EDITED post reads better!
It didn't come across to me as that.
Quite a few of us on here do as much as we can to assist dogs in rescue, and donate generously to animal charities and do spread the word. I'm involved in not just rescue stuff here but on the Skippy Poison Kit bFace stuff where the warnings of poison locations go up. I will spread that about in CYPRUS, I'm not on there telling people to write to their American Congressmen and spread the word on their Craigs Lists. It just smacked to me of the article not being read properly by the person who posted the link to it. Well obviously it wasn't or we wouldn't have been getting told to do something we 'can't do' from here.
You are lucky if you can donate generously to animal charities, I live on an OAP so can't, doesn't stop me helping in other ways.
If you don't want to do something then don't do it, it is that simple, much better than making a song and dance about it.
*at least it wasn't just mis-information as so many have been. Animal Cruelty is a fact. Overcrowded shelters are a fact. Just why more and more people are abandoning their dogs in what is supposed to be a more 'enlightened' age and with all the stuff now broadcast on TV and everywhere about how to be a responsible dog owner - I'm sure I don't know. It baffles me.
I only have to look round my estate and see just how many people don't have much, when it comes to feeding the children or the dog there isn't a chose. Rescues are full and won't take any more dogs on especially Staffies so not realising they are probably signing their dog's death warrant the abandon them. When you talk to these people they think their dog will go to another home and are shocked when they fine out just what does happen.
Originally Posted by
KYes
Are overcrowded shelters and dog abandonments anymore now than couple years ago ?
Yes a lot worse than they were a couple of years ago, rescues are turning dogs away in greater numbers and the pounds who will keep dogs longer than necessary are having to pts them to have room for the dogs coming in.
Originally Posted by
KYes
On this thread though perception is all this stuff has gone up due to the economy . I wordering if their is evidence for this ?
The biggest jump is due to economy but there is also the teenage hooligans who have not had any training, they are regulars in the pounds. When I got Cyril he was just about 2 years old and not toilet trained, hadn't a clue about obedience etc. Christmas Day last year a rescue got their first puppy, she was abandoned in the afternoon so they only had her a few hours. She was traced and they picked her up that morning.
Originally Posted by
Julie
They stopped taking in dogs that needed to be rehomed and are now only dealing with cruelty cases. Sadly that has left many small rescues bursting at the seams. The economy is also part of the problem as people cannot afford to keep dogs, and vet fees too impact on how many need new homes.
When I worked for the RSPCA one animal home were so full of cruelty cases that they only had 1 kennel for rehoming, they had no choice but to stop rehoming. Rehoming is an extra and not part of the RSPCA, the branches started to do this on their own. It was set up to stop cruelty and education owners on how to care for their pets. One of the arguments for rehoming is they will get the dog anyway when it is abandoned. In those days the RSPCA took in the stray dogs as well.
Marriage breakups form a large part of our problems and some of that is due to the economy as people argue about lack of money.[/QUOTE]