|
Location: Motherwell, UK
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,088
|
|
Originally Posted by
Stumpywop
So why on earth didn't they leave when they were told they would be chucked out? I would have!
Joe should go to his GP at least if only to document the injuries. As it was a couple of days ago the brusing would now have come out completely. You should also get him to allow you to take photos of ALL his injuries, no matter how small or trivial they seem; even small scratches.
i think I've misunderstood your previous post. Did the Police actually get called and talk to people at the party? I was under the impresiion they were just driving past.
The way I'm readin git, Joe didn't defend himself. For him to be injured to that extent, he didn't do anything to defend himself IMO. If he did MMA, then whe didn't he use his training to prevent them from hitting him further?
At the end of the day (and I'm not condoning what they did to Joe), they were told they were being chucked out. That in itself can be seen as hostile but either way, it would have been clear that Joe nad his friends weren't welcome any longer and should've just left. I didn't think they were there long enough for this. I thought they were there long enough to get as drink, stand around talking and then it all kicked off. When did the little boy come into it? I hope he wasn't caught up in the fighting.
If the Ppolice were called by someone at the party they would've gone into the premises, spoken to people and taken statements. They also would have insisted that Joe go to A&E just to get checked out if he had a head injury (concussion).
If they've threatened to kill him, he absolutely MUST report this. This is a SERIOUS criminal offence. Threats to kill are taken seriously by the Police. Please report it today. If Joe won't do it, then you should report it for him. The actual chance of it happeneing are irrelevant. The point is, they've threatend to kill him. You're clearly taking it seriously so it has to be reported. Please do it today. It really shouldn't have been left this long.
But again, they may not have seen her hit Joe.. They may onyl have seen him push her.
Laura xx
They didn’t leave because it was a random person who said it, and as they had done nothing wrong they didn’t think he was being serious. I wouldn’t either if I had been innocently standing having a drink, it wasn’t like they were causing trouble.
The place where the party was, is down a wee lane (that leads to nowhere else other than there) and is surrounded by trees. Joe and his mates were walking up the lane, and the police drove down the lane towards the party. So someone must have called them, and I assume they talked to people. the police didn’t stop them as they were speeding down the lane, obviously trying to get there to break up any fights (thinking it was still going on).
When I said he defended himself, I meant by pushing her away from him. he couldn’t use his training because there were too many of them, he could never have taken on that number of people by himself. Also, mma isn’t for fights like that, and cant be used as such. Some of what he knows would help, such as how to get a good punch in but apart from that it doesn’t help. mma is technical, not for brawls.
Some random guy saying they will be being chucked out isn’t good enough, someone should have civilly explained to them they weren’t welcome. As I have already said, they had done nothing wrong so didn’t think it would ever get to what it did. They had no reason to, and hindsight is always a wonderful thing.
They were there for 45 minutes before this all kicked off, that is plenty of time. he played with the boy for about 5 minutes, then they got a drink and stood talking… 45 minutes is definitely enough time for that. he played with the boy right after they got there.
They probably would have done that, but they had already left.
Trust me, I really want him to report it coz it sickens me that they threatened him like that. I want to report it, but im not going to do if he doesn’t want me to. I want to be there to help him, and if I report it against his wishes, this will just cause a fight.
Whether or not they saw her hit him, he told them he never so why the hell did no one stop and ask her what happened?? they did, but only after he was outside, all cut and bruised! there was absolutely no need for them to do what they did, and they were 100% in the wrong for it!!! nothing condones what they did to him!! the threw him down a set of stairs FFS, even if he did hit her he didn’t deserve that!!