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Originally Posted by
chaz
Well maybe I will! Seriously what a ridiculious comment, you don't know anything about me and my dogs, all the stuff that we have gone through, and how much Diesel has changed since I got him, I could of given him up long ago if I didn't love him, he sure has been hard work, and now I want to look for something that would be for fun for me and the dogs.
The experience I have is from talking to people involved in the sport, I use to be a anti, look back in this thread, I even got a added rep from you
, but I've listened to people, went to a few races, volunteered in a rescue home for Staffs, and got a little experience from Greyhound kennels from that aswell, I had a friend in scholl whose Auntie bred and raced these dogs too, and saw hers occanisally, although I've since lost contact, well a lot has happened since school!! I've also learnt a lot more about working dogs too, and I plan on getting a lot more experience from these kennels.
Oh and I use to have a Greyhound is for life, not just for racing sticker too, and had in it the family car. .
Arh now I understand you think I have no experience regarding the ‘sport’ and am just out of school fair or incapable of learning as you have done, so you do know all about me then?
However, it is possible that may just maybe I and others do have a little experience in rescue and the industry and still shock horror I am anti an industry that breeds far too many dogs, thinks its fine to pts or put in rescue. Do you honestly believe that you are the only one who can learn things, the only one to look at things with an open mind yet still come to different conclusions to others? Are you the only person who has volunteered in rescue, or have any experience at all? You assume that anybody who is anti has not listened, done their research, gone to tracks and trainers, never volunteered in rescue – a bit presumptuous given you do not know what people on here have done and still do? It seems only pro people have had any involvement at all – the rest of us poor misguided smucks are just stupid.
I do know what you have done for Diesel and as you say have reppied you (how nice of you to throw them back in my face so publicly) – you’ve done wonders and I agree you should do all you can to make him happy and find him something to do. But as you say you would not think of giving him up if he doesn’t like racing or cannot do it – why is it ok for others to do it then?
Your right I should bow to your obviously superior experience and stop wasting my time trying to stop the cruelty and just accept it.
I take it the sticker is gone then? A dog (or is it just greyhounds) is not for life?
Originally Posted by
chaz
Its not justifying it, its just stating facts, Greyhound racing is a sport that people have very high opionions of, one way or the other, its kind of like marmite in a way
things happen there, but things happen everywhere, if you really wanted to stop cruelty to animals you would stop people having them, as that would be one sure fire way, oh and you'd also have to stop people getting into contact with wild animals too, as there have been people who cover them in glue, and hit them with golf clubs.
Yes some people hold it in high regard – and support it unstintingly, however there are just as many or more who do not hold it in such high esteem as you do. Again I suppose you think these are the people who have never had any involvement or experience of it. The vast majority of people I know abhor it, what goes on behind the closed doors and what happens to these dogs after racing and strange as it may seem to you and you probably will not believe me anyway – they are heavily involved in the rescue of these beautiful dogs, have done and still have dialogue with trainers etc begging to take the dogs instead of a one way visit to the vets or Seaham.
Yes and you point is? This is about commercial greyhound racing! I don’t condone any form of cruelty whether its under the banner of greyhound racing, fur trade whatever, just because it goes on does not mean I have ‘understand and accept it’.
Can I ask what you mean by saying ‘if I really wanted to stop cruelty’ are you actually saying that I don’t! Just because you accept that there is cruelty in the industry does not mean I have to however it does not mean I wish to see people stop having pets – why on earth do I have 5 dogs then or unlike Tazer you do think I just do it to look good? Do you think people are incapable of owning animals without cruelty? Again you come up with the wild animal thing – two wrongs do not make a right! You say you understand and accept that there is cruelty in this world and then go on to condemn those who try to do something to stop it? Is it really all a waste of my time and effort into getting dog to safety and homes to you, should those involved in getting any dog out of a cruel situation just sit there and say ‘oh well you have to understand it happens you know’”.