A dog is of 'type' if it conforms to a "substantial" number of points in the 1988 ADBA breed standard for APBT. It's about a look. A typey dog is a dog that looks a certain way. It's not about aggression.

Dogs that are bred for fighting (whether of type or not) are not bred for aggression towards people. To save me a lot of typing here's Mandy Lion, who explains better than I can anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXBUtBCEjo4


my emphasis


I've heard this so many times but it's not how it's made out to be. Staffs and bull breeds like to tug and young, urban males, not very respectful of communal property, allow them to damage trees and playground equipment. For a bunch of lads having a drink and a smoke it's a laugh to see their dogs pulling madly on a swing or newly planted sapling. It's nothing about training the dog to be aggressive or conditioning the dog's fitness.

But for politicians it is a convenient scapegoat to blame dog fighters rather than try to tackle the social deprivation and lack of civic responsibility.

Quote from the Guardian...

Deputy Chief Constable Gallan said she was "deeply concerned and very disappointed that our policy was not followed in February when we received a call alerting us to the possible breeding of pitbull terriers at the house".

So the police themselves admit that they were told that not only was there an illegal dog at that address but that breeding was going on.

The owner of the dog has now been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/de...tal-dog-attack

J.

That statement is in direct opposition to the Police Officer himself when he did the TV interview, he rightly stated it was not Police business to follow up about dog breeding, he clearly and definitely said there was NO mention of Pit Bulls or any other type of dangerous dog. Typical eh!! Double back, cover your tracks!

Don't know if this has been mentioned already but, I read an article earlier, that said the boy was killed by a mastiff, no mention of pitbull.

I heard several times on the news yesterday, about the police knowing that breeding was going on at the house... so what, I didn't know breeding was a police matter, or illegal. Unless it is section 1 dogs.

Btw, there was no mention of pitbull types being bred at all, in the various news reports, just breeding. So, some one is lying, miss informed, or playing up the media hipe, or trying to cover their ass.

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There was a reduction in stray numbers last year but since the licence is not a new mesure it cannot be attributed to that. Have you a source for your claim of lower attacks since licencing?



Yes, contact the Department of Agriculture form Northern Ireland and ask them for the dog statistics for 2008.

I dont spend my life on these forms as i do have a life, no offence to users of this site but as i back for a we stint, what was the question that i was asked before i disappeared? Gladly answer it

i know you've all probably heard about the arrest of the uncle of John Paul Massey and being charged with 'suspicion of manslaughter' but i have 1 question;

If he's been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter,
is it because the dog is deemed to be illegal??
what if a legal breed had done the same thing, would the charges be the same or would there be another charge
available.

I thought since you were making the claim that you would know the figures.

By the way, your claim cannot be justified on one year's figures. To argue a reduction you need to compare one year against another. Kinda basic.

mmm... i read that but hadnt actually thought about it...

i would imagine it is because the dog is deemed to be an illegal breed. i really wouldnt think they would charge someone with that if it was a legal breed.

i may be wrong, but i would of thought he would of been arrested if it was a legal or illegal breed after all a life has been taken and he is responsible ,whether it was a gun,car,knife or dog
poor poor child