register for free
View our sister sites
Our sister sites
Our sister sites
Our sister sites
mse2ponder
Dogsey Veteran
mse2ponder is offline  
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,890
Female 
 
12-04-2009, 09:00 PM
I like to type what I think, but remain respectful. I'm also guilty of sitting on the fence a fair bit, as often I can see both sides of something, and feel that I don't know enough to take a side. I do feel that the opposite happens on here quite a lot. People have made their mind up about something, often without knowing much about the subject and will never change their minds. They fail to see where the other party is coming from and force their opinions on people. When this masquerades as advice, I think it can be dangerous, as often, although a group of people hold the same views and shout them loudly, it doesn't mean what they're saying is true, right or even helpful.

It would be brilliant if people didn't judge prematurely and I'd love people to just accept that you can always learn new things and that there's no shame in changing your mind when you feel you're better informed.
Reply With Quote
Pidge
Dogsey Veteran
Pidge is offline  
Location: Wiltshire, UK
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,374
Female 
 
13-04-2009, 09:11 AM
Originally Posted by mse2ponder View Post
I like to type what I think, but remain respectful. I'm also guilty of sitting on the fence a fair bit, as often I can see both sides of something, and feel that I don't know enough to take a side. I do feel that the opposite happens on here quite a lot. People have made their mind up about something, often without knowing much about the subject and will never change their minds. They fail to see where the other party is coming from and force their opinions on people. When this masquerades as advice, I think it can be dangerous, as often, although a group of people hold the same views and shout them loudly, it doesn't mean what they're saying is true, right or even helpful.

It would be brilliant if people didn't judge prematurely and I'd love people to just accept that you can always learn new things and that there's no shame in changing your mind when you feel you're better informed.
Very well said, couldn't agree more ;o)
Reply With Quote
CheekyChihuahua
Dogsey Veteran
CheekyChihuahua is offline  
Location: n/a
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,459
Female 
 
13-04-2009, 10:39 AM
Originally Posted by mse2ponder View Post
I like to type what I think, but remain respectful. I'm also guilty of sitting on the fence a fair bit, as often I can see both sides of something, and feel that I don't know enough to take a side. I do feel that the opposite happens on here quite a lot. People have made their mind up about something, often without knowing much about the subject and will never change their minds. They fail to see where the other party is coming from and force their opinions on people. When this masquerades as advice, I think it can be dangerous, as often, although a group of people hold the same views and shout them loudly, it doesn't mean what they're saying is true, right or even helpful.

It would be brilliant if people didn't judge prematurely and I'd love people to just accept that you can always learn new things and that there's no shame in changing your mind when you feel you're better informed.
Absolutely, well said. Tried to give you reps for that post but it won't let me
Reply With Quote
Sarah27
Dogsey Veteran
Sarah27 is offline  
Location: Somewhere
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,087
Female 
 
13-04-2009, 11:56 AM
Originally Posted by Losos View Post
Hi Sarah, first let me say you're not on my ignore list (Nor any poster so far) so that's a good start

Second, can I ask do you mean every human in the world or just those on Dogsey.
Every person in the world, not just Dogsey - one of the sufficient and necessary conditions for therapeutic change is unconditional positive regard. And not just in a therapeutic setting. As a counsellor I am assimilating this into my every day life.


If the former then I can't agree with you at all, what events and circumstances caused the gang of thieves to steal my lawn tractor and trailer I will be judgemental on them for the rest of my life and further more I wish them to die a nasty horrible death in agony.

I totally understand that you hate the people who stole your belongings and that you wish them dead. I don't have any answers as to why they did what they did, I guess only they could tell you that. TBH I'm not entirely sure what you are asking me? If it's 'do I think you should forgive those people', I believe that's not for me to say or to decide. If it's 'do I understand how you feel', I have a little understanding of how you feel from what you posted and I accept that is how you feel

I think maybe you misunderstood my OP. I was stating the things which had made me think more about what I post and how it might affect other readers. I wasn't suggesting that everyone on Dogsey needs to start having unconditional positive regard


And my third and final point is a question, what the heck is 'actualisation' I've looked it up in my OED and the only bit I understood was 'describe realistically' which I interpret as meaning 'telling it like it is' which seems to be exactly what you're not in favour of.
Google Carl Rogers and the fully functioning person, or Maslow's hierarchy of needs for an explanation of actualisation.

Here endeth the lesson

BTW Daysleeper, as much as possible I have to bring the three conditions of UPS, congruence and empathy into my day to day life. Counsellors should BE those three things and live them. It can't be just switched on for a counselling session and then turned off again, otherwise it's not genuine.

Great explanation of Rogers

But this wasn't really intended as a discussion about my personal work ethic, it was more about how responsible do people feel about what they post?
Reply With Quote
maxine
Dogsey Veteran
maxine is offline  
Location: UK
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,411
Female 
 
13-04-2009, 03:03 PM
I try to be constructive and speak on a thread as I would if the person was sitting here with me. I do wonder sometimes if the anonymity of the internet and a pseudonym makes people behave differently.
Reply With Quote
Losos
Fondly Remembered
Losos is offline  
Location: Suffolk, England
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 10,529
Male 
 
13-04-2009, 08:22 PM
Originally Posted by maxine View Post
I do wonder sometimes if the anonymity of the internet and a pseudonym makes people behave differently.
Maxine, right you can stop 'wondering' now it's an undeniable unequivocal truth that being able to hide behind a 'user name' on the internet quite often brings out the very worst in some people (which when faced with a fist on their hooter in the pub they would never dare say such things ) and not just in being aggressive and rude and a total troll but also in living out their fantasies and pleading hardship to gain sympathy which many on here did responded to (as if it was a genuine case) this has occured on here not so long ago

I'm sure Sarah is perfectly genuine and a very nice person but equally she could be a total fake, looked up Rogers on Wikepedia, and just trying to impress and be something which in real life she isn't. You just don't know do you

But as Sarah has said let's not take this thread off on a tangent
Reply With Quote
Losos
Fondly Remembered
Losos is offline  
Location: Suffolk, England
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 10,529
Male 
 
13-04-2009, 08:28 PM
Sarah - You said "I wasn't suggesting that everyone on Dogsey needs to start having unconditional positive regard"

Oh thank God for that, I think I would go bonkers if I had to start liking people !!
Reply With Quote
maxine
Dogsey Veteran
maxine is offline  
Location: UK
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,411
Female 
 
13-04-2009, 08:39 PM
Originally Posted by Losos View Post
Maxine, right you can stop 'wondering' now it's an undeniable unequivocal truth that being able to hide behind a 'user name' on the internet quite often brings out the very worst in some people (which when faced with a fist on their hooter in the pub they would never dare say such things ) and not just in being aggressive and rude and a total troll but also in living out their fantasies and pleading hardship to gain sympathy which many on here did responded to (as if it was a genuine case) this has occured on here not so long ago

I'm sure Sarah is perfectly genuine and a very nice person but equally she could be a total fake, looked up Rogers on Wikepedia, and just trying to impress and be something which in real life she isn't. You just don't know do you

But as Sarah has said let's not take this thread off on a tangent
You are right, you can be anyone you want to be on the internet. It's not really going off at a tangent because it does explain how much (or little) responsibility people actually need to take for what they post.
Reply With Quote
CheekyChihuahua
Dogsey Veteran
CheekyChihuahua is offline  
Location: n/a
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,459
Female 
 
13-04-2009, 09:54 PM
Losos, I often wonder if those who have BIG opinions on Dogsey, are the same in real life. I am known for "saying it how it is" in real life. However, I've heard that there are many people that get carried away behind the safety of a pc I was hoping to see some of those that are known on Dogsey for "speaking their mind", give their opinions on this thread but, sadly, they don't seem to have an opinion on this particular subject
Reply With Quote
bugzy
Dogsey Senior
bugzy is offline  
Location: lincs uk
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 903
Female 
 
13-04-2009, 10:38 PM
I sometimes look at some of the replies on this forum and think blimey thats a bit full on/harsh etc. Especially on some of those heated debates, But I can understand people all have different opinions, and some people are more elequant(ep) at putting their point accross than perhaps others are.

I have been tempted to post things before, and i've actually sat and typed the whole thing out, read it all in the box, then hit the back button so its not been posted, so that I dont hurt anyones feelings.

In real life.. I dont think anyone is perfect, we have all done/said things at some point in our lives that we maybe feel ashamed off, and if we could turn back the clock, we could go back and rectify what we had done. Unfortunately no one has invented a time machine as of yet. So the best we all can do in life is to try and live life positively.
Think positive - positive things may happen, think negative and you are attracting negativity.
In the past 4 years I have changed how I feel/think a lot, i I used to be the type of person that said/did things first and thought about it after. Something happened in my life to make me reassess life and how I view it.

That said.. I do not think I could be polite to people like child killers/rapists/murderers etc..
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 4 of 32 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 14 > Last »


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


© Copyright 2016, Dogsey   Contact Us - Dogsey - Top Contact us | Archive | Privacy | Terms of use | Top