I met a lot of people involved in Greyhound Rescue over the bank holiday weekend and they were ALL lovely. They were not evangilists (you on the other hand sound like you are) and quietly won a lot of people over to their cause...some who even, perhaps had closed minds, just by being pleasant.

You on the other hand, seem incapable of being pleasant, a shame as you will, as Dawn has been saying, lose support. A lot of people come on forums and just read them and make up their minds from what they have read...you are not doing your cause any favours. Some of those people may have stuck money in a charity box in the past, but after seeing your attitude may think better of it next time.

You have NO idea what my opinions are, no idea at all. I merely came on this thread as I am fed up of the Emma Milne bashing that's been going on. Other than that, you haven't got the first clue about my opinions.

Back to the real issues I think. People on this forum are VERY good at keeping it friendly yet informative, there have been many heated debates, but we all remain friends (huh Dawn?!!!!) Perhaps you should try to remember that.

Hmmm thanks for the condescending lecture but let me put you straight on several points.

1. I am actually NOT officially involved in greyhound rescue. I am a campaigner. Or whatever term you wish to lump on me. I campaign to ban greyhound racing.

2. Having people not quite see it how I do is one of the things I'm used to.

3. If I cared what people (especially with views that you and Dawn have expressed) I'd have been suicidal and given up a long long time ago

4. If I was in it for popularity, I'd not exactly what you'd deem to be effective.

5. I get on well with people on both sides. Even the likes of Galty I would class as a 'friend'. However put me into a debate then I'd rip shreds out of his thoughts and opinions and vice versa. There are people I dislike immensely on both sides and have no time for. Mostly those who make their gob go when they have no idea what they're talking about.

6. I've little time to sit down and try to persuade people to see it how I do. And apologies for the offence, but especially those who are unlikely or unwilling to understand/care. Too much energy, too little time. I've devoted 8 years of my life to this cause. I have sacrificed so much over this so lack of tolerance is what I have these days. Especially towards people who don't want to discuss it but simply want to use this issue to create havoc.

7. The people I need to influence are very unlikely to frequent bitchy internet threads.

I do hope this clears a few things up and perhaps you really need to look inwards prior to preaching outwards.

You don't know me and aren't ever likely to. But it really doesn't matter to me what you think. Worse things have been said...

We're not a charity and I never ask for donations.


I'd really like to hear your opinions - opinions that is and not insults.. But I'd also like you to treat others opinions with some respect because, at the end of the day, the very reason I have no respect for you is simply because you jumped in and started telling me how wrong I was then started posting a condescending post about my attitude. I can't do anything BUT humour anyone who acts the way you do.

No Dawn, I'm telling you I don't care less what you think. What is with this Royal "we" thing you have going on? Intelligent articulate and relevant opininos I'm interested to hear no matter what that opinion is. Patronising, insulting and superior-type ones just amuse me so much that I can't help but rip the urine from. Do you really want me to justify myself to you and tell you why I was online at 4 a.m.? Why I wasn't out doing something? oops - sorry, just can't help myself answering ridiculous questions...

Is it possible you can discuss the issue rather than resort to this behaviour? Is it possible to discuss greyhounds and not horses, dogfighting and whatever other issue you want to bring in to it for some odd reason?

See above for the answer to the rest of your questions. Now can we please talk abtou greyhounds and not me (although I'd be delighted to tell you lots more about me if you are really that interested!)

isnt there something a tad more natural to eating meat or drinking milk than betting on something wizzing round a track before disposing of it when its past its sell by date ?

then wouldnt it be better to just ban the sport altogether if theres such a surplus of 'lethal' dogs ? rather than culling them en mass ?

yeah to be fair - im not a fan of the sport - but you cant make a link there

I'm nodding in agreement of your recent posts (well said!) except for this one.

Drugs could have a lot to do with greyhounds. The former owner of one of my hounds has just been convicted of administering cocaine to one of his hounds One hound at a flapping track in central scotland was too stoned to get out the starting box after being fed hash cakes.

Firearms I could give you though, although in saying that there is a connection in the West of Scotland but its flapping related...

Yeah but the way the link was thrown in was to imply everyone involved in greyhound racing was of a dubious character - thats how i read it - drugs and firearm offences have zero to do with this argument.

Now I am the most argumentative git there is, but you cant preach to people and then tell them you dont care what they think - i disagree with a lot of things on these threads in this forum and will argue till the cows come home - i have quite different views on lots of things but you have your say and let others have their say back, you start making comments to Dawn that you dont care less what she thinks - will result in people taking the same attitude with you.

I think your cause could be a worthy one - but you may damage your arguments more than your opponents will by being like that

chill

You misunderstand me. I'm very interested in hearing what people think. I'm very interested in hearing others opinions. I don't think I've preached to that particular individual because that would be a waste of energy.

However I shut off when I get responses and questions like that with a similar type attitude - have no time for it and go into 'wind-up' mode.

And I'm very chilled at the mo (these things dont' get to me one little bit), but thanks for the concern!

You have made it clear in several posts that you only wish to hear what people think IF they agree with you. I don't agree with you in the slightest about the Emma Milne article but you have NO idea what I think other than that and to be frank, you never will as you have been patronising and insulting in the extreme. The majority of people on here will tell you I love nothing more than a good debate thread and I am polite and calm 99% of the time, regardless of whether or not I agree with someone, but your 'I am not interested' attitude defeats the point really.

Before slating someone you don't know and their opinions, it may be worth reading through some of their old posts and deciding if they are friend or foe BEFORE you launch into a full scale attack.
I have nothing more to add on this thread.

Now we know your purpose on this forum... it has nothing to do with championing your cause

It is all down to someone who is bored and uses their time to try and wind people up, for their own pleasure.

Mmmm. I think we have a name for that.........TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!

DONT FEED THE TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!