Congrats to Joe

If Joe is still around in 18 years (Or anything over 5 years, come to that!) then I'll congratulate him. At the moment, he's still very much a manufactured one-hit-wonder.

good point

someone earlier was saying RATM will be forgotten.

which is odd, as thats usually the cast with nearly all X Factor finalists, yet RATM have been going 8 years, several singles, 3 albums, lots of festivals, etc.

........and I had never heard of them til all this blew up

dont worry, there are many well known bands whose recognition isnt defined by the Top 40/Cowell/Celebrity mag definition.

there are probably many bands in that sense you havent heard of, its just a case of going out there and looking, instead of just relying on the daily diet


Having said that, i hadnt heard of Joe McElderderly until all this X Factor stuff blew up, so the logic is the same

i think you forgot a '1' before that 8

Never really following the charts and helping in an alternative club for the last 8 years means I know there are lots and lots of huge bands out there - who do mammoth stadium tours and have a huge fan base - but will never reach number 1 and be known by the GP because the powers that be choose not to promote them on radio
I think if this revolt makes people realise that there are many more bands out there than the ones the radios spoon feed us then this has been fantastic

and as I have always known the number one is more often than not the singal that has had the most exposure that month - nothing to do with the best song, just the one the powers that be want to push

very true, 18 years!!

thanx

Hoo-hoo! I have enjoyed catching-up with this thread. Almost as much as I enjoyed the whole campaign, and RATM's magnificent win.

There's a time and a place for censoring swearing, but music (or any art) IS NOT IT! I reckon sensible parents will take this an opportunity to point out that language that is appropriate in one context is not appropriate in others. I grew up listening to RATM (and much worse from my father!), but I still know how not to swear in job interviews

Anyway, you can get as cross as you like about it, but the charts are "owned" by the people who buy the music. Whatever their reasons, more of them wanted to see Rage at the top than that Joe one. That's democracy!

Yes - Nathan Mahl, Martin Orford, Bela Fleck ...