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Location: Motherwell, UK
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Originally Posted by
mishflynn
There are a few things happening here.
* 1stly your relationship will have suffered abiit due to
a. the recall thingy &
b.you are recently feeling down about your personal life, so if you are feeling down in general he may not KNOW how to behave any more, he may feel unsure of how you are going to recact. My dogs for instance react to be upset very differently , Mav tries to get in my skin hes so close & flynn hides.
* His skin is really really itchy, Its wet & weepy because hes got over active mites nibbling away at him. That must be driving him Crazy!!!!! Thats not his fault, He needs some advocate
now, Did the vet give hiom a skin scrape? are the ear drops working?
* hes got mixed messages, ie hes allowed on your bed but not your parents. Thats not his fault.
* training issues, Not getting off a bed, just like not recalling is a training issue. This dog needs training, thats also not his fault.
So my reading of the situation is this:
The dog is feeling very uncomfy & sore, his owner has changed recently so hes lost abit of faith in you , then you ask him & punish him for something he dosent understand.
Lozzi, you have to get this dog to training class & you have to get his skin treated.
Ive been abit blunt in this post ,sorry. But Biting owners is not acceptable & i dont want the dog blamed ,PTS, labeled dangerous etc when its really not his fault.
Sorry if ive upset you, but in this instance i will tell it how it is (or at least how i see it) for the dogs sake.
The vet didn’t do a skin scrape (which surprised me coz she doesn’t know for definite it is a mite), the ear drops look to be working a bit, his ears look a wee bit better but he still scratches at them. he is a wee star when he gets his drops though.
I know mixed messages isn’t his fault, but I still expect him to do as he is told. I told him to get off my bed, and he did but when I told him to get off their bed he didn’t. I understand he might not know which bed he is allowed on, but everytime he goes on their bed he gets told to get off and usually does it. he knows ‘down’.
I didn’t punish him until he bit me though, and im sorry but he needed to go in his crate for both our safety. It was the safest way to let him calm down, and I did not want to risk getting bitten again.
Originally Posted by
Ramble
First of all have a hug.(Lozzi not Mish but Mish can have one if she wants !!!)
Second...well I agree with absolutely everything that Mish has said and had been reading the thread wondering how I could phrase it.
The two biting incidents happened when you tried to move him. He will have given you a warning but you may not have understood it (ears back, pushing himself further into the sofa...or even just freezing). He wants to be on the sofa/bed and he doesn't want you to stop him. You said youself that you should have used treats...you know how to do it,but sometimes when faced by new situations we panic huh? Have a hug.
I would stop him going on beds and sofas...it is very hard for a dog to know he can go on one bed but not another. Let him sleep in his crate, with his medical issues it is probably best he has his own space right now anyway.Don't let him on beds...keep the doors shut to the bedrooms. Keep temptation out of his way. If he does get up, don't say anything, just lure him off with tasty food...or head out of the room and go and make exciting noises elsewhere (my dogs know the sound of their food cupboard and bowls for example).
As Mish said though...his recall training here is also vital as if his recall was ok you could go into another room and call him and reward him for coming...
I do agree with Mish though, I think you need to get him to classes...if only so you have someone you can speak to face to face.
http://www.apdt.co.uk/trainers_area....%20Lanarkshire
Don't think Airdrie is too far from Motherwell (I have family up and aound that area!!!) Could you get to see this lady? If not she may know someone closer to you that could help????
Good luck.
Remember he has bitten you for a reason (well a few...as Mish outlined) but the main trigger was the moving him off what he sees as his bed...he has not suddenly turned into a mad aggressive dog foaming at the mouth. He has done this for a reason. You now HAVE to sort it all out,that will take a while, you need to be patient/understanding/kind/ consistent. It is fairly easy to sort at this stage...but you have to sort it now.
Good luck xxxx
I know I should have used treats, but it was late and I was tired so I just wasn’t thinking. His recall in the house is usually great though, he comes straight away (its just one walks he goes temporarily deaf). Thanks for the link, Airdrie isn’t far from him so will have a wee look.
I don’t understand why he sees it as his bed though, he always get told to get off as soon as he goes on it, I would expect him to see my bed as his, if anything, and yet he got off mine straight away…
Originally Posted by
Borderdawn
I thought he was receiving treatment?
he is, he is getting ear drops and stronghold, which is 3 wee pipettes that have to be applied to the bottom of his neck, between the shoulders every 2 weeks.
Originally Posted by
mishflynn
I think hes having ear drops? I asked elsewhere in the post if it was working.
Though there was a piccy of jake yesterday & it was still looking much much too sore,-
if it was my dog by now i would have expected it to have looked less weepy /angrey or id have been back to the vet.
His left eye is looking better but the right eye is looking about the same… I was surprised she didn’t give me something to help his eyes and make them less sore.
Originally Posted by
aliwin
I thought they gave him a spot on treatment?
they gave him stronghold, which has to be applied every 2 weeks.