I realise on forums that people can only comment on what they read, but it does sometimes help knowing some background. Without wanting to say too much, I also don't want people to get the wrong end of the stick about Charlie's dogs. 9 of them (the Mals, Sibes and Rottie) are actually owned by Charlie's parents, it is only the JRT's that belong to her OH's dad. The 9 that live with her parents are very well socialised, they go to shows, rallies etc and have even taken part in a tv advert. These are the dogs that have been bred from and Charlie has been handling and competing at rallies from a young age, so in effect they are hers too.

You may be happy to let one of yours go, but I personally couldn't and I know several people that would go through hell and high water to be reunited with their pets again

Errrr...................I don't recall saying I'd be HAPPY Then again, I doubt you'll ever see me posting a similar thread to the one we are commenting on, as I don't let my dogs out of my sight. If I go out, my dogs are locked inside the house which is alarmed, etc. When I am home, my dogs are safe in the garden because we have very high fences and security railings (and CCTV). Also some (not all yet) of my dogs are micro-chipped and they are not let off-lead when out.

My comment about letting the dog go was merely because I think the dog has suffered enough. I believe I said that "if the dog was happy and well cared for" I'd leave it where it was. Seems to me, if the OP decides to uproot the dog again after it has had so much unrest, maybe the OP would be more interested in their own feelings than the dog's;-[

Also, if one of my girls/boys went missing (albeit unlikely) there is no doubt that I'd be on the phone and scouring all the kennels daily, so I doubt I'd be in the same scenario, as nobody would be able to forget who I was if one of my babes were missing. The Kennel staff would be out themselves hunting the dogs down, in the hope I got off their backs

That is terrible what a horrible story, you must have felt terrible, poor dog as well.

JMO here but from the posts i think the kennel DID let these people down very badly. It seems they rang several times about the dog and was not once told they had a dog matching the description in. For the dog to be rehomed TWICE implies he was there for a while and at least one person working there should have put 2 and 2 together. Also if they said they would call then they should have called.

With regards to the new owners i feel for them but at the end of the days the dog is MINE and has been mine for 5 + years so i will move hell and high water to get the dog back. The dog may well be settled in the new home but it will not be that stressful to come home esp as the dogs parents still live with the OP. It may be slightly selfish but i would want my dog back regardless of where they ended up esp if i had spent months looking for them.

If the LA acted properly then ownership was transfered after seven days. Otherwise ownership did not transfer and yes the owner can claim back their dog.

This was the thrust of my post - whether proper procedure had been followed rather than what constituted proof of ownership. The case of Kiss, the husky seized by Animal Warden Ltd and rehomed by Hastings Council demonstrates that it doesn't matter how much proof you've got if the dog has done its 7 days then legal title is lost.


Microchips are great and very much advised but they are NOT proof of ownership. Nor is a tattoo.

What is then?

Ok before i say anything else..

THESE ARE MY PARTNERS DOGS..

My dogs are all Shown and scoailised from 8weeks old, and even younger when we breed ourselfs..

As i stated these JR's where trained a certain way..

And are not MINE, but my Partners family's.

Now of to read the posts..

Ok, The dogs are trained for certain reasons..

Which i will not state on a public forum, but if you have a guard dog, you expect them to guard?!
The mother & Farther where Inside the house, and He was left out side, which he is all the time, due to prefuring to be outside..
The garden is fully secure.. And when we noticed he was missing part of the Gate on the fence was snapped!
He couldnt of done that himself..


We tryed talking resonably to the new owners, and she said its happend to me before, i never got my dog back, so why should i give him back!

Which isnt fair!

The dogs under the STAGGAN affix live with my parents, who i show & work and ocasionally breed..
www.staggansleddogs.com

The JR's I have known for over 2 years..
And Posted to make my Partners dad's Post a bit clearer..
No we wouldnt put them through stress, Because it isnt fair on them, if you see what these where like you would understnad..

totally agree with this post, charlie, is well known in the mal/sibe comunity and her dogs are socialised, its her boyfriends fathers dog that has gone missing.

Mo

It may not be fair, but if the dog was signed over to the council after 7 days, legally the dog is theirs now. Sadly there isn't a lot you can do about it.