No that's fine mate, ironically though, Isla has had her eyes tested twice (March 2008 and 2009) and these results have only just appeared!

MRD should indeed show up on the health test finder.

And it's true re the % difference in incidences of show type and working type having MRD. The majority of working type Springer breeders don't health test as they believe if a dog is fit to do a days work, it's healthy. On the KC website PRA and Fuco DNA results are listed. Of all the dogs on there only a handful are working strain. When I was looking for a possible working type sire for future pups I could only find 2 kennels that health tested sufficiently - one in Kent and one in the Highlands of Scotland!

Why are you all confunsed??
Ive just read through and Pidge was reffered to the vet to get his eye checks, if Pidge did not ask for the results to be submitted to the BVA they will not have been so the KC will not have her results.
She was reffered to get his eyes checked not an eye test for the BVA

Maybe not, but shouldn't she have at least got the certificate, from what i remember of Shona's it was just a hand written tick box type thingy hardly something that would take months to do, and something i would expect to be filled in at the time of the test, after all how is he going to remember every dog he has tested

It may be because medical problems can cause behaviour problems, and so the vet is suggesting they put that down as it works better for the insurance anyway in his view?

Wys
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he hasnt had a test, hes had an examination by an eye specialist. Which Im sure the vet will write on the patients notes.
If the vet was not asked to do a BVA test then there would be no form for an eye test.

It sounds like the vet that reffered you thought that he had behavioural probs because he had a problem with his eyes which would make sense.

None of Toros Parents health tests are on there either, does the breeder inform the data base of the health testing ?

No,as far as I am aware they go directly to the data base.

Once it is in offical hands, its out of yours...I think

Sorry, I've only just had a chance to get on here.

I'm confused at your confusion. It seems perfectly clear to me. Gemma and Wys are right.

13 May - Woody booked into vets for health check up to rule out any causes of behavioural problems (stress, frustrated, nipping when not getting own way and unable to settle). Vet discussed diet but also found she was unable to see retina and expressed concerns about PRA so referred us to an ''eye specialist''. I have previously expressed concerns about his eyes but he was previously given all clear.

14 May - We see Mr Fraser. He takes a look at Woody's eyes and says he can see lesions on the retina (showed us) and said he has mild MRD but that we shouldn't ever have a problem with it.

18 June - no report sent to my vets so called to query. He said he wouldn't have done the certificate and submission as a) not breeding from him anyway, b) not booked in for health screen, booked in for behaviour (I was not aware of this at all, but who am I to argue, especially as really it will help me with my insurance claim) and c) that the Kennel club do not put MRD results on their website. They do everything else for the eye but not MRD.

Now, other than this I can't really tell you anymore. My main concern is getting that report to my vet (for piece of mind that it's down in writing) and that Woody is OK.

I take your point, and that situation , it may make sense...but it would still not explain, that as a result of the examination..Pidge did not get HER copy of the paper work,

When I took Bandit to see the eye specialist.. earlier in the yr... we did not go for an examination for any hereditary diseases...BUT we did get a copy of the findings... one went to me, one went to my vet, and I dont know what happened to the third.


I think why so many keep getting confused is because back in the other thread,,,,Woody was not referred to the specialist for behavioural problems... no mention of that..

That is something that has just come up.

Pidge took Woody to her vet to check everything, in case any thing was affecting his behaviour..

But on that examination her vet suspected P.R.A.....

I dont know a lot about this , but would this affect a dogs behaviour, as in all of Woodys problems

On examination by specialist ,( for PRA) Woody was diagnosed with mind MRD ...so mind the specialist was not overly concerned.


So I think this is why so many are so confused.

Now we have said specialist saying that Springers are not a breed that needs to be tested for P.R.A and they will NOT show up on the list.

As an eye specialist who is on the panel... you would expect he knows his job and what breeds is at risk.

You would also expect him not to fall down on issuing the paper work for what ever he tested for.... even if he was not testing for any genetic diseases.

Hopefully Pidge will be able to un-confuse us

Hopefully I have ;o)