You do not know me personally so do not know what I have done for rescue or infact who I have reported over the years but I note you have not answered my question--------------Would you just keep taking neglected dogs from someone and keep quiet??

Just to reiterate (as previous posts have been wiped and I have every right to defend against accusations), my post was merely factual aimed at a specific poster. You have yet to provide evidence to suggest otherwise.

JB I do thank you for that but and this is just a oh I dont know but - why? Isnt what I do the same as rescues who take in exbreeding dogs do - do I not make up anotther a space for yet another greyhound to be put through the hell they are?

I take it you have some understanding of what goes on behiind the scenes at these rescues who take on ex breeders and know for a fact that they are doing nothing? Strange because my experience is very different - so maybe you could share>

As I have said before this is a very different scenario to a single owner with a neglected or ill treated dog. The farms have been set up with government backing, they have to abide by the very minimum standard of animal welfare (lets not forget that these are stock animals same as cows, pigs sheep) so the law is very different!

I do agree with Rune - its very easy for people to slate people for taking ex breeding dogs but they come up with no real ways of tackling the problem or what they would rather be done with these dogs.

You accuse rescues of 'keeping quiet' and virtually imply they do nothing about neglect cases - I would very much like to know where you get your information from that they do nothing.= and if you have such proof why are you doing nothing - or are you?

To be honest this thread now smacks of hidden agendas and the very pointed attacks on ONE rescue is disturbing.

Is there a reason you keep picking on this rescue? There are many rescues that take ex breeding bitches and ex 'working' dogs so why the concentration on just this one?

I be very interested in hearing your opinion on other rescues the RGT for example.

I did not say I DONT respect any rescue for taking in ANY dogs Spot, what I said was , by doing so opens up a"space" for another to take its place, I also said Spot that the head will always rule the heart, and thats understandable.



No one is slating anyone or any thing Spot, 1) fact is MT does not home to those who have entire dogs, that not slating its simply voicing part of their policy. 2) the facts are by taking in ex breeding bitches, you open up a place for another, that's not slating it either, its simply stating a fact.


The answer to all these problems is tighter legalization for these people to breed, and discard ... until that happens, the cycle will continue,

And I have every respect for those who do what they can, but it does nto mean I cant see a flaw to it too.

IMO rescuing ex breeding bitches from puppy farms and buying a puppy from a puppy farm are incomparable. An ex breeding bitch will eventually be discarded and going into rescue is a far better alternative than a brutal death. Either way, she will be replaced. There's no financial incentive for a puppy farmer to put a bitch in rescue, whereas the sale of a puppy is. It's the latter that supports puppy farmers.

But the latter cant do that without the breeding bitches, they are both ends of the same objective. without one , yo cant have the other.

True, but the main point of my post is that the bitch will be discarded and replaced regardless of a rescue taking her in. I find that a far better moral option than bitch being either being bludgeoned to death with a spade or having her head stuck in a bucket and drowned.

I agree, and see your point, there is no easy answer really, you have to do it, but also have to accept that by doing so , you are helping them rid themselves of a problem, a bit of being caught between the devil and the sea.