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Tupacs2legs
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18-03-2011, 07:47 PM
poor girl

how old is she?

...dont want to be a downer,but it may not be behavioral but it could be medical,dementia,renal or something like a brain tumour ,or as mentioned too,eyesight list is endless really
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18-03-2011, 07:54 PM
Originally Posted by DevilDogz View Post
Sounds like mums rescue puffer - Peace, her pacing seemed to have come from years of caging, no human contact and certainly no affection.

I wonder if this dog has been caged for long periods of time, away from people..Hence the fear of being re caged, held ect..

I am certainly far from a dog behaviour expert but I think once trust is earned, your friend can then think about working with the poor girls issues - I guess for now, the first step is just needs to earn the dogs trust.
Agree with the above. My last foster was like this for the first few days and had been caged for very long periods at a time and overbred from/ not socialised at all. I would try and get the dogs attention on something else, food ,a game even just a watch me and reward, but try her best to ignore the unwanted behaviour.It will be a long winded process and to start with they may not be able to get through to the dog at all as they are so programmed into certain behaviours, I had mine for a month and she was making baby steps here, but know she is still having issues in her new home years of habitual behaviour are difficult to break. With regard to a mild sedative valerian and skullcap is supposed to help a bit, how much when the behaviour is this extreme though I can't say.
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18-03-2011, 08:06 PM
My God ,how sad!!
Makes me ashamed to be part of the so called "human" race
The previous post from Tupac2legs mentioned dementia
When I read this it sounded very much like my dog Buster,who has dementia .
He paces and paces -sometimes for hours on end-goes up and down the stairs ,in and out of every room .(He has been on Aktivait for the last few months which has helped a bit)
He also doesnt like to be held-he used to NEED to have his head on my feet,my knee -anywhere-now if I try to hold him ,he sort of panics and pulls away.
He is 14,though-not sure what age this dog is - you only stated that it was adult.

Agree with some of previous posts-this could be the result of being caged,with no human interaction and certainly no love.
Hope that, if it just this,with patience from her new owners-well her first real owners ,she is able to begin to trust people and to see that not everyone wants to hurt her
Please keep us posted
from Maureen
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18-03-2011, 09:31 PM
Thank you for all your suggestions, I have passed them on. The Vets have seen her they dont think there is anything wrong with her eyes, further enforced by she can see things normally it appears, never bumps into things and chases food/biscs etc. when thrown.

Dont know how old she is but she isnt an elderly dog.

She gets behind the sofa too but never tries to go out the way she went in, she will try to scramble up the wall to get over it, rather than try and turn to go out the way she came in.

The home she is in is very dedicated, my friend does Border Welfare she was the one that contacted me, the bitch is in a home where the people will do anything to help, but are now really struggling with little improvement. They are not novice dog owners.

Thanks again, all suggestions are very much appreciated.
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18-03-2011, 09:36 PM
How long have they had her Dawn? Also the fact that she will chase food is good a dog who is really stressed won't eat,( trust me the stressed Beagle didn't touch any food that was left in her crate when I had to pop out),so this dog is having moments when she is calmer ,which gives some hope for her recovery. How much excercise is she getting?and could they give her her food in treat balls kongs to mentally tire her out all things to take the edge off and calm her a bit maybe? I realise lots of excercise may be difficult at the minute if the dog is very underweight.
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18-03-2011, 09:48 PM
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How long have they had her Dawn? Also the fact that she will chase food is good a dog who is really stressed won't eat,( trust me the stressed Beagle didn't touch any food that was left in her crate when I had to pop out),so this dog is having moments when she is calmer ,which gives some hope for her recovery. How much excercise is she getting?and could they give her her food in treat balls kongs to mentally tire her out all things to take the edge off and calm her a bit maybe? I realise lots of excercise may be difficult at the minute if the dog is very underweight.
I think they have had her a couple of weeks. She isnt calm except when asleep. She doesnt crave attention but is very friendly. She is happy outside or inside, but displays the same behaviour. I personally think its puppy farm type behaviour, she doesnt do anything "dog." Its very sad.
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18-03-2011, 09:52 PM
I think maybe going back right to basics - this is what we had to do, we had to allow Peace to come to us, and accept us before we could move on with her..Peace didnt know how to be a dog, she didnt know what a dog was - it was almost 'taught' to her, she learnt alout from our other dogs following them. Its a sad thing to watch, it took mum nearly three years to get Peace to what she is now.. Dont let your friend give up hope, it can be hard work but its ever so rewarding.
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18-03-2011, 09:55 PM
As I said my last foster was like this she would wake up in the morning and look all sleepy and relaxed and then BAM it was like a switch was pushed and she was off again, she was slowly improving,but I was excercising her a lot and making her work for any food she had so I think she was whacked Have they got any other dogs? A laid back dog may help her get used to her new world. I really hope she starts to improve soon for her sake and the owners.
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18-03-2011, 11:21 PM
Poor wee dog. I'll ask my friend as she takes in traunatised (usually older) dogs that would otherwise have no hope of homing. Shes had quite a few with severe behavoural issues. She is getting a 13 yr old tomorrow that for all its life was kept in a dark shed at top of a garden.
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18-03-2011, 11:22 PM
Poor girlie. I take in ex-breeding JRTs from a puppy farm and they often behave as you describe for the first while until they settle, I have good results with a combo of Zylkene and DAP.

It sounds like she's got a good home..I hope she comes good.
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