I couldn't agree more Azz very well said .

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well get the flags out! one thing we both agree on!...the law is Joke, its dispicable that sadists are still getting away with brutalising our wildlife!

I couldnt agree more Azz, i'll never understand in billion years the mentality of these people...and i dont want to.


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unfortunately you are going to get people like that that are set in their ways. i have nothing against farmers controlling foxes on their land if they are causing problems, providing it is done as efficiently as possible, so ideally one shot and its over. i do not agree with the hounds ripping apart a fox, and i dont agree with them being dug up if they go to ground.

found this online which explains all the different blows on the horn. the only ones i do are moving off, stopping the hounds, calling the whipper in, and blowing for home.

http://www.albrightonwoodlandhunt.co...rn%20Calls.pdf

you can call the hounds off. they told the woman to leave it because her going in like that could of got her bitten, on the face by numerous hounds (luckily they werent that interested!)

dont appreciate that. never whipped a hound in my life. we have whips which we use. but the dogs arent hit. you hit the area beside infront or wherever. never the dog!
so say you want the dogs to stay behind the huntsman, they crack the whip in front and say "come behind" or when we are walking up roads we have whipper ins (what i am) at the side walking along the pack and the whip gets cracked to the side if a dog ventures too far out.

thank you for the link, i'll have a look at that later

they looked either young hounds or very cowed ones to me.

My local hunt. Love the countryside here. Often go.

'Nuff said for me.

I sometimes try to stay out of these hunting debates, because naturally both sides are unlikely to change their views, and it can become rather steamed up in the thread However, I am going to have a little say.

I am pro fox hunting, I always have been and always will be. I do become a little cross when hunt followers, be they on horseback or on foot are branded as bloodthirsty evil people who are out there purely to see a fox killed. This is absolutely not true........although the farmer who wishes to reduce the loss of his lambs in the spring, or the chicken owner who is sick to death of picking up mutilated half dead or dead chooks from the orchard (me), may think a dead fox is a good fox.

Very often, there is no kill at all (especially now of course, although accidents do happen.......we are talking about living animals with minds of their own; the hounds are bred to hunt foxes, and it is in their blood, same as my JRT has hunting small furry things in his blood. Once he spots or scents something, there is no way on this earth that I could stop him.....hence his never being offlead outside the garden). But if there IS a kill, then it is over and done with in a flash. I just cannot understand, or condone, the idea that shooting problem foxes, or trapping, or poisoning is an acceptable way of controlling them. I have come across a trapped fox at the crack of dawn, and the image will forever stay with me. Nobody should ever inflict that sort of agony on any animal, and the same thing can happen with a bad shot.....as for poisoning.

I always trot this out, but for me it is very relevant......what is the difference between a fox and a rat? Both are furry mammals, both are wild and are opportunists. One has a bushy tail, one doesn't. To me that is the only difference and believe it or not I like and respect both.......and I will tolerate both happily until they cause me a big problem. Millions of people think absolutely nothing of getting somebody in to deal with their rat problem; and if dealing with them involves bringing terriers plus something heaving to bash them over the head with, then they think so be it. Nobody is jumping up and down and saying it's cruel to rats.

I abhor cruelty, always have and always will, and although I know that many people feel that the actual chase is cruel, I don't believe that it is.

As for the Antis........why when they love animals so much supposedly, do they turn up in combat gear with balaclavas and do their utmost to harm hounds and horses.

The two sides are never going to agree I am afraid, but I will be attending the usual Boxing Day meet in the High Street, along with thousands of others who support hunting. It is not about bloodthirsty toffs on horseback, it is about normal everyday members of the community who enjoy a good day out across country and who know that they are helping to scatter and reduce the fox population in the area.

*waits to be flattened and pummelled

shooting,trapping and poisoning goes on now just as it did pre-ban, it will never stop, people have this belief that the fox population will suddenly burgeon out of control if foxes aren't killed, thats not true. Fox numbers are regulated by the availability of food & territory. So as foxes are territorial they dont need help dispersing!

If a farmer has a problem with a fox the most humane method of killing it is to shoot it, most foxes never come into conflict with man so why should they have to pay the ultimate price?? foxhunting is not only inhumane but its indiscriminate!

Genuine Sabs Are animal lovers and would never harm hounds or horses, just like genuine football fans would never start fights at football matches. I believe theres been a lot more prosecutions against huntsmen then prosecutions against sabs for violent acts?

& this is absolutely appalling behaviour towards an elderly lady monitoring the hunt,

This is just tit for tat. You know as well as I do that the level of violence committed by hunt sabs and animal extremists is shocking. They kill Hounds, they attack people, they purposely and deliberately set out to cause disruption and it often ends in harm.