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26-01-2010, 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher View Post
My initial googling came across this on a BBC website, going back to April 2009:

"In England, Scotland and Wales the Dangerous Wild Animals Act makes it illegal for anyone to keep a dangerous animal as a pet, but this doesn't apply in Northern Ireland. You need a license to keep a dog, but can keep a wolf with no regulation at all. "
Not what i found.

Anyways, its not relevant, the article said Ireland, not Northern Ireland. Completely different country

I didnt comment on the laws of Ireland, i dont know them
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26-01-2010, 04:35 PM
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Good for you! I read the book having previously seen the photo presented today (and others) about a year ago. I also discussed wolf hybrids in Ireland with Marc RowlandsHaving read his philosophy blog it is funny to see how outraged the humanists (missing the point completely) got over his suggestion that he wouldn't throw his dog out of a lifeboat to rescue a person... look deeply into your hearts people.
Lets get this a bit more complicated - just for a bit of mischief - I wouldn't throw my dog out of a lifeboat to rescue a person either - especially if me and my dog got there first and he had helped me jump in. Mind you I would feel a bit guilty
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26-01-2010, 05:32 PM
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Lets get this a bit more complicated - just for a bit of mischief - I wouldn't throw my dog out of a lifeboat to rescue a person either - especially if me and my dog got there first and he had helped me jump in. Mind you I would feel a bit guilty
...ahh but you could live with that guilt
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26-01-2010, 05:53 PM
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...ahh but you could live with that guilt
No, guilt has always been my problem (parents fault) thats why I envy my dogs - no guilt problems there
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26-01-2010, 06:02 PM
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No, guilt has always been my problem (parents fault) thats why I envy my dogs - no guilt problems there
The article quotes:
“ What is most important when the time comes – and it always will – is to live your life with the coldness of a wolf ”

Perhaps they don't feel guilt? AS for 'coldness of a wolf', I find mine are better than a hot water bottle
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26-01-2010, 07:32 PM
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Just grabbed a couple of passing Saarloos but cant see any mark; however their ears weren't being very co-operative, so I will look again later!
i bagged a csv as he was passing...or so i thought oh dear he is a dud!! oh well

and my n.i's head is all white,does that count?
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26-01-2010, 07:40 PM
Ref the dwao 2004.

Canidae, except the species of the genera Alopex, Dusicyon, Otocyon, Nyctereutes and Vulpes and the species Canis familiaris

Jackals, wild dogs, wolves and the coyote (foxes, the raccoon-dog and the domestic dog are excepted)
Hope that clears it up, seems you can't own a wolf without a licence in Northern Ireland.

Ref the topic of the thread, I've not read the book, though if its only £5 on amazon, I might give it a go. As for the dog, certainly not a pure wolf, if it has any wolf content, it couldn't be determined from that pic alone.
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26-01-2010, 07:48 PM
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i bagged a csv as he was passing...or so i thought oh dear he is a dud!! oh well

and my n.i's head is all white,does that count?
You weren't sold a pup were you?
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27-01-2010, 10:02 AM
Originally Posted by wolfdogowner View Post
The article quotes:
“ What is most important when the time comes – and it always will – is to live your life with the coldness of a wolf ”

Perhaps they don't feel guilt? AS for 'coldness of a wolf', I find mine are better than a hot water bottle
I have not read the article yet, certainly an eye catching statement, but I think he is mistaken to say "live your life with the coldness of a wolf". Does he mean literally cold, emotionally cold or what? A wolf will feel cold, but, has adapted to deal with it. If he means emotionally cold - can't agree with him there - dogs and I believe wolves show affection all the time, to each other, their pups, etc. They have an intelligence and it's part of what binds them together to help ensure their survival. They play and have a responsiility (but not guilt) towards their group (not going to say pack, especially if humans form part of it). I believe that dogs and wolves also mourn when experiencing loss (my female certainly did when she lost her long term companion - although she did not mourn her pups going). However, what dogs and wolves must do is move on.

Agree with you - better than a hot water bottle - although there are limits at our house as I get fed up of washing bedding and being called "dog woman" by my disrespectful kids. Really am "going to the dogs" now so I will stop.
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27-01-2010, 03:00 PM
Sorry to come in late. A couple of things that spring to mind. First of all, I would agree with others that his "Wolf" looks pretty much pure Mal to me. Reading between the lines of the article, it seems like a poorly socialised and untrained Mal at that. I think the guy let his romanticism get the better of him and let the dog get away with any behaviour - a kind of canine "noble savage."

To compare simian and canine/lupine natures is pretty pointless. They are what they are and we humans can no more change our natures to think/act like a wolf/dog than wolves/dogs can change their to think/act like humans. Neither is superior or inferior - they just are!

As to the white "thumbprints" on the backs of the ears indicating wolf content........ I've never heard that before. Some of my sibes have such a mark and other don't, but as no Siberian Huskies have wolf content more recent than 10,000 years or so, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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