There`s a dog trainer in London who likes to train the dog `alone`. Was it an amichien guy?

I agree with you!

He wanted to walk my dog for ten minutes or so alone - the rest of the session was with me there of course.

But I didn't understand why he needed to be alone with my dog - and I didn't allow it, and never would.

Funnily enough in a consultation I had with a fantastic behaviourist years ago, she didn't want or need to interact with my dog at all. She could get all the information she needed by questioning me & observing the dog itself & how the dog interacted with me. Even when it came to demonstrating things, she was happy to direct me how to do it at a distance, & when my dog was safely back in the car, she fetched one of her own dogs to use to demonstrate what I should be doing & looking for in my dog.

Absolutely disgusting. I ahve no sound right now on my PC which IMO makes it easier to concentrate on the dogs in question. Wasn't that a lab x called Curly? If its the dog I think it is, he was taken from a guy in New York who after having CM at his apartment, decided to give up the dog anyway. He gave him to CM who then handed him over to one of his crew.
Never heard what happened after that but clearly now he's being used as a stooge to provoke other dogs.

Shouldn't these people be banned from owning or working with dogs? Aren't there laws in the UK and US to rpevent this sort of cruelty?

It does boggle the mind!

She is entitled to her opinion, but I think she is blinded a bit still by the whole tv thing...

Wys
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No one, absolutely NO ONE, will get my dogs off by themselves... EVER! I dont even let trainers use my dogs as demo's. Most especially my fear-reactive dog. but even little Mouse, who absolutely adores everyone, and has no issues, would ever get taken out without me. I have 0 trust in people... as far as my dogs are concerned.

The alone thing can give you a better idea of weather its the dog problem or owners problem.

E;g if you take the dog off the owner and it starts walking to heel/ignoring other dogs and following you commands you probably have an owner problem!

Of course even if you do all the dogs training yoursleve you still have to teach the dog to work for the owner as well.
That said when I have done this you can progress very much faster because the dog is learning from you and you are likely to be better than the owner.

Then when you team them up you just have to teach the owner maintenance skills instead of training skills, which is very much easier.

Adam

...and yet again we show some ignorance ....99.9% of dogs will behave differently (and usually better) for a 'new' person....there is no history there...the dog is learning about the new person and therefore not showing 'true' behaviour.

This is why when people take on rescues they are told about the 'honeymoon' period.

Ignorance = bliss.

Any dog going into a new situation will be cautious. This may well take the form of walking carefully.

And this man says he trains dogs for money?

you are serious right? the dog may well behave for you (as many a rescue dog behaves for the honeymoon period. Kerrie was an Angel for about a month)

Worries me that you claim to be a "trainer", and I assume people pay for your services???