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13-05-2010, 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by DevilDogz 
ah ok i get you, and i would have done the same..but from your post i took it that you would pay a bad breeders (knowing they were bad breeders before looking at pups!) if they had the pup you wanted!..
Which for me i wouldnt agree with
-----Having said that I don't want one----but I might want a brown Gordon one day.
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13-05-2010, 06:27 PM
In effect you would be helping a breeder by giving them what they wanted, making room for more pups to be born, and giving them the market to carry on just so you could have what you wanted .. very selfish, not to mention most of these bad breeders, breed from dogs with no health tests or that might not comform to breed standard but atleast you would have your choosen colour!
really it does make my mind boogle!
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13-05-2010, 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by Hali
I must admit, I am against breeding for a specific colour because personally I think that should be the lowest of the considerations when breeding (though if all other criteria was met, there is probably no harm to it).
But if an unusual colour is produced, is it so wrong for the breeder to benefit from that?
Even those breeders who don't breed for money will still nearly always charge the 'going rate' for that breed. So if the 'going rate' for a 'rare' colour is more, why shouldn't the breeder charge it? If not, why aren't all dogs the same price irrespective of breed or colour or sex?
What is the difference between paying more for a 'rare' colour and paying more for a 'rare' breed? (assuming both are well bred).
The whole question of dog pricing is ultimately about supply and demand.
I totally agree with you, if all health and temperment are both taken into account I see no reason why colour cannot be taken into account when choosing a dog!!
We decided that we wanted a Tri-Beagle before we got Monty (although I orginally wanted a Lemon-white OH changed my mind) and although it is not necessary to pay more for a tri or Lemon/tan I think I would have if it was what I really wanted!! - As long as all other factors were ok!
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13-05-2010, 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by rune
If I wanted another lilac collie and couldn't find a decent breeder I might well go to anyone who had one.
-----Having said that I don't want one----but I might want a brown Gordon one day.
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13-05-2010, 07:41 PM
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13-05-2010, 07:41 PM
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13-05-2010, 07:47 PM
Originally Posted by DevilDogz
well what can i say, some humans can be very demanding, its very much a want want world we live in and i hate it!
In effect you would be helping a breeder by giving them what they wanted, making room for more pups to be born, and giving them the market to carry on just so you could have what you wanted .. very selfish, not to mention most of these bad breeders, breed from dogs with no health tests or that might not comform to breed standard but atleast you would have your choosen colour!
really it does make my mind boogle!
Is your idea of a good breeder someone who health tests?
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13-05-2010, 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by JoedeeUK
Really ?? I know many predominantly white BCs that work for a living & have no problem at all working sheep, I have been told that split faced dogs are also not good working dogs(cover your ears Wu)Someone should have told Bobby Dalziel that & I presume his Wisp only won the Supreme Championship by a fluke !
But I've heard from shepherds that the sheep can make it harder for a white dog, so a white dog generally has to be able to assert itself more strongly than a predominantly darker coloured dog, which not all of them are able to do.
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13-05-2010, 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by rune
Who said anything about not wanting health tests????
Is your idea of a good breeder someone who health tests?
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13-05-2010, 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by labradork
So you would support a puppy farm over a responsible breeder, solely because you wanted a dog of a particular colour? wow
You can 'wow' all you like, if I wanted a specific colour and could only get it from someone I considered to be a bad breeder I would still have it. It isn't the only thing I would look at but its an important one for me.
BTW---breed standards wouldn't bother me at all, in fact sub standard might well be a better option in some breeds!
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