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16-07-2011, 06:22 PM
As you know I live in the sticks like you so I dont often meet other dogs but when I do I find the down works really well. Cullote doesnt like other dogs in her face and wont run up to them but she will start barking at them if they are around and too close. The other day I was out on the bike with her and down the track where we ride, in summer there are some mobile homes, one of them has a little fox terrier who will have a go, I saw him come out and put Culotte in a down untill I got there, she stayed beautifully quiet (I was really proud of her ) this all gave the man time to come out and see what his boy was barking at and get him in. So work on the down it works well for us
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16-07-2011, 06:42 PM
My dogs have what I call 'selective' recall. They are great 'un distracted' but if they see another dog they will want to say 'hello'. With this in mind, when I go 'Down South' to visit my family, they tend to be on lead in busy areas. Better safe than sorry.
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16-07-2011, 07:47 PM
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yogi sounds like xeva (only she was socialised, puppy class, went everywhere with me from the day i got her) she charges up to dogs barking but as soon as she gets to them she say's hello and will then play great. she also does this when she is on lead so i just turn around and walk the other way till she has calmed down and then head back the way we came from. (hope this makes sense) this is working slowly but surely

with yogi id keep him on a long line and when you see another dog put him in a sit or down until the other dog has passed or walk him away from the other dogs until he is calm then he can say hello if and when you say so.
Thanks for your ideas. I may well try the long line or flexi when we are down at my sister's until I can work out how he is going to react. My sister has a border terrier and she regularly walks with other people with dogs and so, with her help, I am going to try and set up a few situations to see how he gets on.

I think this behaviour is seen in many GSDs unfortunately.
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16-07-2011, 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Milk maid View Post
As you know I live in the sticks like you so I dont often meet other dogs but when I do I find the down works really well. Cullote doesnt like other dogs in her face and wont run up to them but she will start barking at them if they are around and too close. The other day I was out on the bike with her and down the track where we ride, in summer there are some mobile homes, one of them has a little fox terrier who will have a go, I saw him come out and put Culotte in a down untill I got there, she stayed beautifully quiet (I was really proud of her ) this all gave the man time to come out and see what his boy was barking at and get him in. So work on the down it works well for us
Sounds as though you have certainly found a solution that works for Culotte I am definitely going to polish up on his instant down, as well as his recall Thanks.
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16-07-2011, 07:53 PM
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Yogi is a male sadie!

I think it is very typical GSD behaviour if allowed, sadie is the same, has a great recall but if a dog suddenly appears she does charge over. I can recall her fine off other dogs normally, its only when we meet them round corners and there my reaction has to be split second to get her to heel.

I havent actually solved the problem! I just manage it by pulling her in to heel if we are going into places that i cant see very far ahead, does yogi have a good heel offlead? That may be the way to go if you are unsure or cant see far ahead?
Failing that- does he like balls/toys...i havent used this with sadie, but with ripley she was over friendly with other dogs so as she is ball obsessed i gave it a cue "bally" and now that is my emergency recall...she will leave ANYTHING for her "bally".
I agree it is very typical GSD behaviour - when allowed go unresolved for a period of time I know it is all bluff and bluster, as he is a big wuss really

Yogi will loosely heel off lead, but is far more focused on me when I have his ball ... so will definitely remember to pack that and take it with us.

Thanks for the advice and it is nice to know I am not the only one with this issue!
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16-07-2011, 07:58 PM
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It might be worth keeping him onlead and using the clicker to reward the second he looks at you when dogs are around....but it would take time and (new) dogs to train it before going maybe (before he gets to the stage of being off lead and looking to you when dogs around...)
Thanks for the idea. I haven't used my clicker since Flame was young (she is now ten!) so it could definitely be worth a try. I am looking at getting into a new dog club for socialisation purposes as soon as a place becomes available. Where I live is just not conducive to dog socialisation really, as we rarely come across other new dogs.
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16-07-2011, 08:03 PM
Originally Posted by werewolf View Post
My dogs have what I call 'selective' recall. They are great 'un distracted' but if they see another dog they will want to say 'hello'. With this in mind, when I go 'Down South' to visit my family, they tend to be on lead in busy areas. Better safe than sorry.
Thanks for your experiences WW. I am sure I will definitely keep him on a lead in the more busy areas.
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17-07-2011, 08:20 AM
Originally Posted by Moobli View Post
I agree it is very typical GSD behaviour - when allowed go unresolved for a period of time I know it is all bluff and bluster, as he is a big wuss really

Yogi will loosely heel off lead, but is far more focused on me when I have his ball ... so will definitely remember to pack that and take it with us.

Thanks for the advice and it is nice to know I am not the only one with this issue!
It is not typical GSD behaviour, it sounds like he is an insecure dog - I dont want people on here believing this is normal behaviour for a GSD as it is not
which one is he Kirsty?
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17-07-2011, 08:36 AM
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It is not typical GSD behaviour, it sounds like he is an insecure dog - I dont want people on here believing this is normal behaviour for a GSD as it is not
which one is he Kirsty?
Perhaps I should not have said "typical" GSD behaviour, but personally I do believe they are prone to bluff and bluster type of behaviours if not socialised enough (or correctly) as youngsters. I agree he is insecure and doesn't know how to greet strange dogs properly.

He is my younger shepherd Pam. What would you suggest I do to rectify this behaviour?
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17-07-2011, 08:39 AM
My Lab does the exact same thing, so he's on a Flexi unless we are specifically practising recall.

One thing I have found helpful is to start giving massive praise the second he looks at me, rather than waiting until he's actually turning and heading my way.

Hope that might help a tiny bit, I really empathise with you, I'm trying very hard to resolve this recall issue with my dog too

Best of luck
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