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Helena54
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16-12-2008, 01:25 PM
Originally Posted by Fernsmum View Post
Take care of yourself Helena , you need time to grieve and to come to terms with this
Thanks, and you're right, I think I do.

Originally Posted by lovezois View Post
So very sorry Helena.........
Thanks Eunice, never ending for me isn't it!

Originally Posted by Vicki View Post
So sorry to hear this, darling.

Things can only get better now, surely?

Huge hugs - I'm right there with you in spirit x0x
Thanks Vicki, and yes, it's been a bit of a year on the old stress counter for me hasn't it, so I'm hoping that's it now for the new year! Thanks Vicki.xxx

Originally Posted by Westie_N View Post
So sorry for your loss, Helena. Hope everything goes ok for the funeral and your friend who's having the op. Take care.
Thanks Westie, I don't think I will be very strong at the funeral somehow....I'll try though.

Originally Posted by wufflehoond View Post
Aww...honey, better to cry and get it out. It's not good to hold it in. We're here for you xxxxx
Thanks Jackie, I was ok until I came back in here this morning and read all these lovely, sincere messages, set me off again!xxxx

Originally Posted by Ramble View Post
So sorry H, so sad to lose someone at this time of year it feels so much more heightened. Sorry H, hugs xxx
Thanks A, and yes, you kind of think to yourself, I can't be happy even though everyone else around you is, you feel so guilty, I'm still in shock actually coz it was all so sudden even though she had to suffer for a whole month.xxx

Originally Posted by Kazz View Post
H its not true you know that bad things come only
in three's when we find a £coin on the floor or hear of a baby born we never say things come in three's only because we do that for not so good news so we search for the 2nd third thing to come and seem almost miserable unless we do....as someone who has had breast cancer twice in less than 3 years I KNOW the third time is never to darken my door....we should only look for the 2nd 3rd thing for good news ......

I am sure your friends husband has made the right choice calling into your house.

As you say your friend would not want them/you to be miserable and mope....grieve yes but remember the old saying "give them the flowers now"......try and remember also in all of this you are equaly as important and need to give yourself time to grieve and laugh....take care Karen
Thanks Kazz, and I'm sorry to read about your past there, I knew it was once, but never knew it was actually twice, but as you say, you know in yourself you've now beaten it, and I hope and pray it stays that way for you.xxxxx I love the bit you put "give them the flowers now" I had to think about that for a minute, but what a lovely way of putting it! Thanks Karen.xxxxx

Originally Posted by youngstevie View Post
So sorry to hear your so sad news.

I am happy though that she got to tell him how much she loved him.

I hope she rests in Peace.

Hope your other friend is ok after her op xxxxxxx
Thanks Steph. I'm assuming that nurse knew exactly what the doctors were going to say to him on his return from shopping don't you!xxxx

Originally Posted by Angel44 View Post
I'm so sorry to read such sad news She fought so hard, bless her. My thoughts are with you xx

I hope your friend's op goes well next week x
Thanks Angel. Yes, she did fight hard, it must have been absolute torture for the family with good news one minute, then down the next, only to lose her at the end. She was a very strong person, I would have expected her to put up a good fight, just as I would.

Originally Posted by settagirl View Post
Oh H I am so sorry... ((((HUGS)))) babe cos I dont know what else to say... thinking of you xxxx
Thanks settagirl, you've said enough, thankyou.xxxx I don't know what to say to him either, but somehow it just blurts out as it often does on here! See, I'm cheering up a bit now!xxxx

Originally Posted by wishbone View Post
Oh H I am so sorry

It is so sad at anytime of the year but especially now, when everyone is busying themselves with the commercialism of Christmas. This is the true time to remember our loved ones who are no longer here.

As for why do they come to you? They do it because they know you are a strong, reliable friend. I know it is hard but take it as a true, true compliment that they do come to you and share their thoughts and feelings, as that is a very special thing you can do for them.
Off load on us as we will on others.

Yet another of my old boys died this morning. I was off this weekend but was with him on Friday night, he was at home to die. His son was there and I was with another carer to change him etc, but he was ok and comfortable so whilst she did odd jobs I held a JRT in one hand and his hand in another. It was a friends little dog and she was an absolute poppet sitting on his hospital bed licking his fingers. I will not forget his smile bless him.

RIP all those who pass at this time of year in particular.
Thanks Becky. I often think how difficult it must be for you at times. Afterall, you get to know your patients/clients on a daily basis and each time you lose them I'm sure it saddens you many a time, even if they were cantankerous old fogies some of them who probably had your blood boiling too on occasions! I know remember!!! You're right, Christmas IS a time to remember those we've lost, it's a very strange day for me sometimes, when I think of who was around over the years and is not now. Thanks Becky.xxxx

Originally Posted by Gellygoo View Post
Oh H, I am truly sorry to hear this news.
I think your friend's husband was very brave to give the word to switch off her support.....to stop her suffering any more than she had to.
It is a good thing that he felt able to come to you and talk and get support from you, many men just can't do that and they suffer in silence. You must be a blessing to him.
I know that it is hard to listen when you are feeling full of grief too, you are doing a wonderful thing and your friend will be so grateful for that.
My best wishes for your other friend for next week.
Keep your chin up H. Just keep being you. x
Thanks Gellygoo. He needs somewhere to be, he's like a little lost boy at the moment, but that's not surprising when like me, she did just about everything for him. There is nothing worse than shutting yourself away in an empty house and I told him that, so he's going to visit some friends in London coz he can't work at the moment he's just had an operation for testicular cancer himself only a month ago just before this happened with her. It's ironic isn't it, that he had to put his welfare on the back burner to deal with all of this, only to lose her in the end, so, so sad.xxxx

Originally Posted by Lionhound View Post
Sometimes life is too cruel, thankfully you are there to give support and love to those who need it. Hopefully in time you will be able to remember your friend and smile, until then (((hugs))).
Thinking of you xxx
Thanks Lorna, yes, life is very cruel sometimes. I'm hoping it will give me a break next year though and give me a few more of the happier times - that's my plan anyway! Thanks Lorna.xxxx

Originally Posted by Benzmum View Post
H, I am sooo deeply saddened to read this news. I am soglad you went to see her and she WILL know you were there and that you were there suporting her precious family till the end ...and beyond. Please take comfort in the fact that her time hear was done. Try not to shed tears of saddness that she has gone but tears of laughter for all the funny moments and the good times you had in your strong friendship.

My thoughts are with you and her family. Please look after yourself, allow yourself to remember but remember with a smile...that is most definitely what she would have wanted

Huge hugs H

xxx
Thanks Benzmum! Yes, I'd forgotten that I actually went to see her after only a couple of days in there! That's made me feel a lot better you having just reminded me!!! I'm sure she heard every word I said to her as I was gently rubbing her hand and arm, trying to make sure I didn't dislodge the intravenese It could only happen to me as you know, so I kept my eye on my hand at all times!!! Oh I do hope she knew I was there and heard my every word. I even had a good laugh with her at the time coz the nurse was joking and so was her husband, so I thought I'd keep the tone on the same level. Thank God I went when he asked me to and didn't put it off till she had come round, I would never have forgiven myself I'm sure of it! xxxxx

Originally Posted by Irish Setter Mu View Post
Hi Helena

Sorry to hear the sad news. She had a good friend in you and everyone knew it.

Take care and my thought are with you.

Karen x
Thanks Karen. I'm looking forward to meeting the rest of the family on Monday because I'm sure she must have told them all about me.xxx

Originally Posted by Lucky Star View Post
Oh this is very sad. I am so sorry for your loss, Helen and for your friend's husband and family.

I feel awful for you all and there's nothing I can say to make things better. You were a lovely friend to this lady.

Take care.
Hugs.
xxx
Thanks Lucky. I will still be her friend right up until the time he doesn't need me anymore.xxx

Originally Posted by Razcox View Post
So sorry to hear this news, my heart goes out to you. I was pulling for this brave lady to pull through after she faught so hard.

Its not easy being the rock, sometimes it would be nice to fall apart too . . . Hugs to you and i'm sure you woof is looking after you. they always seem to know xx
Thanks Razcox. Yes I was routing for her too, it was like a rollercoaster ride for all of us with differring news each day, one minute you're positive, the next you're not too sure, but the time she went was a time we were all on a high that she was going to pull through. It just wasn't to be. As her husband said, we all have a bullet with our name on it when we are born, and I think he's got that just about right!

Originally Posted by rachelsetters View Post
So sorry to hear this Helena - made me cry reading it what a wonderful friend you must be

((((SETTER HUGS AND KISSES)))) hope they help xx
Thanks Rachel, and yes they help loads!!!xxx

Originally Posted by Lynn View Post
I am so sorry to hear the sad news Helena.
Everyone else has said all the things I would of said, so I will send (((Hugs))) from Ollie and myself and you know I am thinking of you and will be on Tuesday.
Take care and try to have a few quiet moments thinking of your Friend and all the laughs you had together. Xxxx
Thanks Lynn, but I can't do that at the moment, coz I just cry I'm sort of trying to be strong (for him really, and the daughter), so I'm not letting it get to me too much. I think I will just let it all out at the funeral and be done with it, move on. I'm lucky in that I can do that, until I feel ready in myself to remember things that I've lost, you know what I mean Lynn, I had a massive lost 18 months ago as you know.xxxx Thanks, hope all is well with you and you're enjoying your little "break" to yourself!! Make the most of it!!!xx

Originally Posted by Penry View Post
Sincere Condolances babe . . . . .

Big hugs to all concerned

x x x
Thanks Shane, nice of you to think of them all and me of course!xxxx
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16-12-2008, 01:51 PM
thinking of you at this testing time, hugs to you

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16-12-2008, 02:00 PM

Have just manged to get online at the library for the first time since I was at OH's over the weekend. Am so sorry to hear this, I was really hoping to hear that she had pulled through and was now on the right side of things. I just can't believe it. The poor man, I just don't know what words to say
Bless you for being such a tower of strength to him and his family at such a dreadful time
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16-12-2008, 02:22 PM
so sorry to hear this sad news. its wonderful he has you to listen to him.
my sister has had the same prob with her bowel she has been in and out of hospital for years lost her memory and is now in a wheelchair.
i took my 2 young sons to their friends grave he was 12 when he was killed in oct so they could put some cuddly toys there as they said hed be sad at xmas if he didnt have anything!
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16-12-2008, 02:53 PM
Im so sorry to hear the sad news.

It sounds to me that the nurse did know what was going to happen and cared enough to ensure that her husband had a good and precious moment to remember. When you went to visit her and spoke to her she would have heard every word you and her visitors said, even though she was unable to respond to you.

Im sure she knew how much you all loved her and Im sure that your visit was important to her and her family.

Although it is very hard for you to try and help her husband and family when you are also dealing with the pain of your loss you are doing the most important thing for your friend by being there and listening. It takes a very special kind of friend to be able to do that.

Allow yourself to grieve as well and dont be afraid to cry, it just shows how much she meant to you and people will understand.

Sending you lots of hugs and thinking of you.
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16-12-2008, 03:22 PM
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16-12-2008, 06:10 PM
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16-12-2008, 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by melsgems View Post
thinking of you at this testing time, hugs to you

Mel x
Thanks Mel, I think I've been tested to the limit this year quite honestly Mel, I'm hoping it will stop in 2009!xxx

Originally Posted by tawneywolf View Post

Have just manged to get online at the library for the first time since I was at OH's over the weekend. Am so sorry to hear this, I was really hoping to hear that she had pulled through and was now on the right side of things. I just can't believe it. The poor man, I just don't know what words to say
Bless you for being such a tower of strength to him and his family at such a dreadful time
Thanks June and sorry you're still lapless and having to use the library! Yes, strange how things happen isn't it, we all thought she was going to pull through xxxx

Originally Posted by angied View Post
so sorry to hear this sad news. its wonderful he has you to listen to him.
my sister has had the same prob with her bowel she has been in and out of hospital for years lost her memory and is now in a wheelchair.
i took my 2 young sons to their friends grave he was 12 when he was killed in oct so they could put some cuddly toys there as they said hed be sad at xmas if he didnt have anything!
Thanks Angied. So sorry to hear about your poor sister. You see, that's just what she would not have wanted my friend, and on top of that, her husband would never have been able to cope even with help, and the daughter lives so far away from them plus she's got the two babies, so as awful as this might sound to say it, maybe it was a blessing in disguise perhaps. Thanks.xxx

Originally Posted by colliemagic View Post
Im so sorry to hear the sad news.

It sounds to me that the nurse did know what was going to happen and cared enough to ensure that her husband had a good and precious moment to remember. When you went to visit her and spoke to her she would have heard every word you and her visitors said, even though she was unable to respond to you.

Im sure she knew how much you all loved her and Im sure that your visit was important to her and her family.

Although it is very hard for you to try and help her husband and family when you are also dealing with the pain of your loss you are doing the most important thing for your friend by being there and listening. It takes a very special kind of friend to be able to do that.

Allow yourself to grieve as well and dont be afraid to cry, it just shows how much she meant to you and people will understand.

Sending you lots of hugs and thinking of you.
Thanks Colliemagic. Like you say, she allowed him that short bit of time, he fed her a yoghurt too, and no doubt those words will stay with him forever until they meet again. He can't stop praising those very special nurses in the HDU and so he should, they are indeed very special, I could see that when I visited. Thanks for confirming she could hear what I said, I'd like to think she did, because I do feel a bit guilty the fact that I didn't give her my new number for a couple of weeks, and if I HAD given her my number, then everyone has said, I would have been the first person she would have rung, instead of being all alone in her house that afternoon, having to call an ambulance for herself, it makes me feel very guilty to think about that quite honestly, so I hope I'm making up for it now. Thanks again.xxx

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Thanks Louise, it's not easy.xxx

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so sorry to hear this

xxxx
Thanks Suze.xxx
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17-12-2008, 08:22 AM
Helena54 so sorry to hear of your loss.
Hope memories of your friendship and all your good times together, help you through this hard time.
All the best
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17-12-2008, 09:02 AM
Oh Helena, that is such a sad sad story, I can't believe what I have just read... Im sending all my love, and I hope her husband is ok, bless him, and it all happeend so suddenly...xxxxx
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