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29-06-2012, 08:59 AM
Originally Posted by Hali View Post
Really interesting question.

I've had direct experience with 3 dog aggressive dogs. One, that I had known from a pup was completely bomb-proof around people and even when he was most wound up by another dog, if a human hand got in the way he would immediately stop.

The other two were rescues with no known background. In their cases they didn't so readily differentiate between people and dogs; if something agititated them, they would bite a human.

So is it nature, nurture or a combination of both which decides how a dog will react? Is it bite inhibition taught from a young age which prevents a dog-aggressive dog from biting a human?

Or possibly an understanding (whether taught or inherent) that humans are not a threat?

Is it the same as human men differentiating between other men, women and children? Most men would retaliate against a perceived threat from another man, but would take evasive action if the incident involved a child. Is that reaction all taught behaviour or inherent?

I think I'd ask this mother mafia how they decide whether a human is trustworthy around their children...have they ever left their children with a man who has had a fight with another man - if so, how do they know that man wouldn't be violent to their children?

Of course we don't always get it right with people and so we might not always get it right with dogs. But one big difference between humans and dogs is that dogs don't practice the deceipt/duplicitiy so often found in humans (or is that another point for debate - do dogs ever practice deceipt)?
Thank you hali, i am grateful you got where i am coming from. And some great insights and feedback for me to take on board. Great post
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29-06-2012, 09:01 AM
Originally Posted by Maisiesmum View Post
Yes, you are understanding me correctly. I would have experience to back it up.

A dog that is aggressive to dogs through lack of socialisation or bad experience can still be perfectly okay with dogs that it lives with or knows. If it is fear-based.

Like I say the motivation behind the aggression would be my explanation.

Dogs that are aggressive towards dogs can be aggressive towards people. If it were fearful of dogs and people. Even then, the dog could be fine with the people he lives with and trusts.

excellent feedback. thank you
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29-06-2012, 09:02 AM
Anyone else with any more interesting thoughts?
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29-06-2012, 09:33 AM
I like those posts as well.

Of course, as we are all aware, you can get dogs who show aggression to both dogs and humans, but the motivation and reason for that behaviour is important, it doesn't necessarily follow that one will automatically mean the other, which is what you are getting at, aren't you?

So yes I think I'd talk about the motivation

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29-06-2012, 10:02 AM
Ahh right I understand the question

Well for me the reason I say those things is from observation
I have met dogs who were weary and snappy around humans but happy and confident around other dogs and vice versa


But I guess if she wants more sciency sounding

In nature animals have to be able to tell the difference between species
One species is dinner, one a mate and another may have them as dinner


An animal who can't tell difference in species won't live long
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29-06-2012, 10:07 AM
If the dog is being aggressive to guard something it is equally likely to do the same with a person---unless it has learnt otherwise.

If the dog is angry because the pup is too OTT---why would it not get angry when treated like that by a child?

Thoughts?

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30-06-2012, 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by rune View Post
If the dog is being aggressive to guard something it is equally likely to do the same with a person---unless it has learnt otherwise.

If the dog is angry because the pup is too OTT---why would it not get angry when treated like that by a child?

Thoughts?

rune
My GSP has no patience with puppies and would get angry if one was OTT and ignored the warnings. Although he has always been very good with children I wouldn't make any guarantees about his behaviour with an OTT child. Needless to say he won't EVER be put in that position.
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