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19-09-2006, 12:35 PM
Originally Posted by Heldengebroed 
You got it
Dogtraining is 99% reward in whatever form that suits you AND your dog. unfortunatly you need 1 correction and here it is also in function of the dog and yor abilities to work with the tool in question.
To my knowledge there was no mention of an e-collar in the original text.
Greetings
Johan
Not moi.
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19-09-2006, 12:39 PM
Originally Posted by pod
Wys, you speak of training methods as if they are mutually exclusive. I would imagine the best trainers to have an open mind and use methods appropriate to each individual situation.
.Thought he'd be interested to know about Geert - being open minded works both ways after all...
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19-09-2006, 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by pod
Great post Johan. Illustates well the level of anthropomorphism creeping into so called modern training methods.
But do you think that's what "so called modern methods" are all about? Ignoring the dog and alll that? Really?
If so you are very mistaken, or else you've seen some bad training done by some.
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19-09-2006, 04:15 PM
Originally Posted by pod
Wys, you speak of training methods as if they are mutually exclusive. I would imagine the best trainers to have an open mind and use methods appropriate to each individual situation.
I didnt use a clicker with my severely human fear aggressive rescue dog [ he`s deaf so he cant hear one ! ].
I did use positive only however, and funnily enough he has never bitten me in the near enough 9 years I have had him.
He did used to bite many people , [ before he was rescued ], because of being `corrected` with negative methods...
When he arrived with me he was the angriest, most volatile and most violent dog I had ever seen.
Wonder how come he responded so brilliantly to gentle work rather than any kind of force...
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20-09-2006, 06:38 AM
Originally Posted by Patch
I didnt use a clicker with my severely human fear aggressive rescue dog [ he`s deaf so he cant hear one ! ].
I did use positive only however, and funnily enough he has never bitten me in the near enough 9 years I have had him.
He did used to bite many people , [ before he was rescued ], because of being `corrected` with negative methods...
When he arrived with me he was the angriest, most volatile and most violent dog I had ever seen.
Wonder how come he responded so brilliantly to gentle work rather than any kind of force...
Who said a correction had to be done with force?
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20-09-2006, 07:15 AM
Originally Posted by Patch
When he arrived with me he was the angriest, most volatile and most violent dog I had ever seen.
Wonder how come he responded so brilliantly to gentle work rather than any kind of force...
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