Responsible breeders do not advertize on websites like Gumtree etc. Most responsible breeders never have to advertize at all & prefer recommendation through word of mouth & reputation of producing typy health tested dogs that are definitely fit for purpose. As for my postings not making sense you seem to have answered a rhetorical question(one that does not need answering) & your naivity is obvious-one doesn't"stud"a dog one uses a dog at stud

THAT IS VERY HIGH!! just 41 scored and such a high average means there is much concern for this in beagles, I am with you others, wouldnt go within a mile of a breeder that doesnt hip score!

You know I have to say, Pidge has been on here asking for advice (and taking it) from day 1 with her pup. She has a happy, healthy pup that she is doing her very best for. So...she didn't know how to source a top notch pup...she isn't on her own and people live and learn. At the end of the day what actually matters is how she treats her dog now she has him. From what I can see she treats him exceptionally well.

We all start somewhere and I wish I started out as well as she has. I think people need to ease up a bit. So...she got a pup that was advertised on Gumtree and it was froma someone who loved their dog and wanted pups. There are worse places to get a pup from...to be honest she could well have a better pup than if she had got one from someone on the KC Accredited breeders list...

Agreed! Good post!

Thankyou muchly!!!!!

Expect for the fact, the sire and dam have not been health tested...

Surely you would not advocate that ...as being the place to buy a pup from....yes there are worse places to buy from, but two wrongs dont make a right, and a breeder who fails to follow the simplest of rules is as bad as any.


This is not a get as Pidge post, a she herself has been open enough to see her mistakes... and I commend that!

She loves her boy and am sure she will bring him up in the best home....as as been said, it is done , you cant undo it.. and I am sur eall will be well for them both.

In all honesty I think worse things happen.
I think just being health tested doesn't ensure you have a top notch pup. It is about a lot more than that. It could be (and sounds like) these people have raised the pups well,sounds like the bitch and sire are well loved and stress free. Sounds like the bitch had a calm and pleasant pregnancy and the pups were reared in the home with love. There are many KC health tested dogs out there that don't have such luxuries...health testing alone doesn't make a good breeder.

All I am saying is get off her back...she has a happy healthy pup and there are a lot worse places she could have got it from and a lot worse breeders than the ones who had the litter.

Do I condone it? That's different. Don't know. I have had 12 and a half years with a dog who has been exceptionally healthy until the last year or so. No health tests were done on his parents, his mother was stressed during pregnancy and I have no idea who is father was. Would I cnage it or him???? Nope.

How does anyone know that they"loved their dogs & wanted puppies"?

I dearly love my Cavaliers, but I would never let either produce offspring.

I love(actually worship)my cats but they have both been"done"

I love all my BCs but will only breed of the best health wise & I would never ever advertize on Gumtree or the like

So because you wouldn't breed your pets you love them more than the people who bred Pidge's pup??? Not sure I follow that logic to be honest.

I think the heading of this thread is a bit one sided.. lets face it the BBC didnt just pull out leaving the kc on there ass
The KC refused to bend to the BBC's demands on what would and wouldnt be shown...
As I see it the KC pulled the carpet on the BBC...