right ive shortlisted the australian sheperd, the gronendael, the lancashire heeler, the OES, the samoyed, and the vallhund.

to be honest dont know much about the pastoral group though so have just gone on what i like the look of. lets see what gets it.

i liked the GSD from the look of it while it was in the line up, but when i saw it close up i really didnt like its back end.

I dont like the GSD and if it did win I think it was the wrong decision, the back looked deformed.

The Aussie was just divine but I guess to have another in the line up so soon after the Crufts winner just wouldnt be done.

I am so very proud of Revloch Zidane (Groenendael). Only a youngster still and my first memory of him was him as a pup playing with my Callan when he was 6 weeks old and I first went to see him. To see him on TV tonight was fabulous

oh well i got 3 in the line up..

can not believe the german sheperd got it

He looked lovely, though still not fully mature perhaps, I thought the same of the Terv as well. Mali girl looked lovely and I still say one day I will have a Laekie!

I liked the Aussie.

Not a fan of the German Shepherd's back though.

I actually loved the GSD, a super, super chap. Stunning head, infact I havent seen a better head, wonderful mover..It really was shown and presented to its best. I think it was a very much deserved place.

dont think it should of won, but its definately one of the better german sheperds ive seen about the ring lately...

Were they just talking about its back end on more 4 ?
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I can see what people mean by really sloped ..

Fab that the gsd won, he's not exagerrated- middle of the road, just as they should be.

I really cant see how people think the back is deformed...its how the breed is supposed to be and doesnt actually hinder them as some people think.