OK, thankyou I understand - I was confused with the terms used
when you said you didnt breed from him I thought you ment someone else had him at the time

I am surprised and saddend that stud owners take no interest in the lives they produced
Can I also ask, as he was a crossbreed why were you breeding from him anyway?

What!! Of course I took an interest - where ever did you get that idea? With his first litter, we introduced at least 4 of the owners to the owner of the bitch, maybe more, with the second litter it was more difficult because Skye's owners lived in Southampton.

I don't agree with this "not breeding from crossbreeds" - Hal's hipscore was good - 6 & 6 - he was a fantastic dog, healthy and extremely beautiful with a lovely temperament, despite being a true alpha and a git to boot!. The pups that were produced were amazing ... you have probably seen pictures of Ben, and you will agree that he is gorgeous.

Actually, as a PS, I have just remembered that my OH designed and published a website for the owner of the dam of the first litter ... for which he was never paid, contrary to our agreement, but that is another story ... to help her show off the dam, sire and the pups.

yes he is pretty, so are my Mia and Ben, but I dont agree with breeding from them while many pretty and ugly dogs die in rescues

But people breed from pedigrees ... that is all right is it? Whilst pretty and ugly dogs die in rescues?

in general no I dont believe most people should be breeding from their dogs
But I believe it worse from crossbreeds because it is more difficult to know what you are going to get as a result, noone is an expert on the breed because the breed does not exist

everyone loves their dogs, and rightly so, but that does not mean they are the best placed person to decide if there dog is a great enough example to produce pups from

Gnasher, don't you think it was irresponsible to breed from Hal with his very iffy pedigree. How did you know if the bitches were closely related or not?

Ahh ok. I know very little about what protocols are used when breeding, who picks where the pups will go, choice on raising the pups etc. I personally think that it is a bit sad that you had no input in the offspring, and didn't know one of them went up for rehoming or had such a poor quality of life with the owners he seems to have had since he left the bitch/mother. But for all I know this could be the norm, just seems a real shame to me.
That said I do know that many people have to travel far to find the best stud to match their bitch, so in that way am not surprised that the stud family have little interaction. Like I said I really have no idea. But thanks for clarifing.

I also have to agree, why breed these mixed breed dogs when so many are up for rehoming so often. I personally think when there are so many dogs up for rehoming from rescues and such that it is the breeders jobs to reduce their output so people who want these 'wolf crosses' or mal/husky mixes have to look at rescues. I would say the same for any dog often found in rescue, pedigree or not. ATM I defiantly think breeding staffies or staffy x is a very irresponsible thing! Way too many in rescue, to the point the second my rescue was well enough he was chopped! lol
But hey, maybe when you studded him out there weren't any in rescues, and it was just bad research and knowledge between breeder and owners.

Sorry for going off topic

It's breeding mutts. And we all know what that's called.

No, because there was nothing iffy about Hal - and he was not closely related to either bitch, if he had of been, we would not have mated them