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24-12-2010, 01:17 PM
R.I.P Barbara Williams.
I really wonder what happen or could of triggered such an attack, it is such a tragedy.
I also have never heard of this breed, and from what I have googled the pictures all showing a very large mastiff type dog.
The media is upto its old tricks again though, On the front of the different articles I have seen one pic of a staffy, and a pic of a neo mastiff.
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24-12-2010, 01:31 PM
Originally Posted by Benzmum 
Have to say i agree, I saw a poor Mastiff x being hauled around the busy city centre the other day - yes with all the christmas shoppers etc, it is horrible to stereotype and I am prepared to admit I may be wrong but huge chain type lead with massive studded collar and the 2 legged end of the lead was drinking from can of lager and shaved head with loads of tattoos (again I do not mean to cause offence to anyone who fits that description but when combined with all the factors it makes me jump to conclusions
) Anyway the dog looked extremely unhappy and on edge and it was surrounded by hundreds of bustling jostling shoppers
Originally Posted by MichaelM
Heard the story on the news this morning. I can't help it, but my first thought is "how was the dog treated."
Originally Posted by Sal
Nothing wrong in taking dogs through town,Tyler and Meg are often walked through our town,both onleads and walking to heel.
Originally Posted by twilightwolf
I just saw that on the news as well, apparently the pup has been taken into police custody. I really hope it is ok and safe from being destroyed
Unfortunatly if they find out it is related to the dog which done the attack, they will likely destroy it. Poor bubby. Hoping for the best!
This is a very sad case, and happened not two miles away from me......
I can't imagine a worse death than being mauled by an animal, whatever the species. My thoughts are with Barbara's family at this sad time.
I'll reserve judgement on what actually happened until there's more news on the circumstances
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24-12-2010, 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Delos
I'm confused why are people more worried about the dog than the person killed. Or more interested in the puppy than the 5 year old that was also in the house? Some dog owners are too quick to say poor dog and it wasn't the dogs fault etc forgetting the human tragedy involved.
There is a very good chance:
- This attack was avoidable
- This attack was due to irresponsible or incorrect upbringing or breeding
- The dog (and the woman) would still be alive if it was brought up/bred responsibly and kept in proper conditions.
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24-12-2010, 03:07 PM
The dogs breeding and/or living conditions may have contributed to her death, but we shouldnt forget that this dog killed a person- now for a dog to inflict an obviously sustained attack on an adult, and to kill her, is horrendous.
As for the pup removed- if it is of an 'unknown' mastiff type- similar to the one that attacked, then i hope it is pts.
From media reports i have heard, it seems the owner of the dog was a lodger at the womans house.
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24-12-2010, 03:11 PM
Originally Posted by Borderdawn
They have been crossing Pit Bulls, Stafford and Bullmastiffs with Presa's, Cane Corso's etc to try and "recreate" this breed for ages! Silly devils, was always going to happen.
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24-12-2010, 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by Azz
Because yet again, a dog pays the ultimate price for the fault of his human owner (and possibly breeder) - with his life.
There is a very good chance:
- This attack was avoidable
- This attack was due to irresponsible or incorrect upbringing or breeding
- The dog (and the woman) would still be alive if it was brought up/bred responsibly and kept in proper conditions.
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24-12-2010, 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by Azz
Because yet again, a dog pays the ultimate price for the fault of his human owner (and possibly breeder) - with his life.
There is a very good chance:
- This attack was avoidable
- This attack was due to irresponsible or incorrect upbringing or breeding
- The dog (and the woman) would still be alive if it was brought up/bred responsibly and kept in proper conditions.
Originally Posted by greyhoundk
Totally agree with this, a disaster waiting to happen with this mix
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24-12-2010, 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by Delos
I'm confused why are people more worried about the dog than the person killed. Or more interested in the puppy than the 5 year old that was also in the house? Some dog owners are too quick to say poor dog and it wasn't the dogs fault etc forgetting the human tragedy involved.
I hope that if the puppy is deemed dangerous it is PTS. If not the liklihood as there are so many in shelters it would anyway as finding a home for a dog deemed to come from a dangerous home is unlikely.
Every dog attack effects us all as owners. It effects public perceptions of dogs and owners and reinforces silly laws such as the dog control orders in some parks.
The police are looking for the owner.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12072694
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