Who the vets or the insurance

Who are you insured with?? what are you claiming for ..if its just the consultation fee, I would be careful for future reference..

you will have to pay excess... depending on your policy... if you dont have a life time cover , they may not cover his eyes when you come to renew your insurance, next premium.

Then you will be stuffed if any major treatment is needed in the future.

If it was me, I would not put a claim in for £95 , which you will proberbly have to pay the first 60/75 anyway.


Best to check your policy first and make sure you have lifetime cover...



If you have concerns over his eyes, best to put that at the forefront of your issues..

agree with jackbox, especially as if he does have a problem it may affect his behaviour, Slight MRD wasn't it??

I've been giving this some thought, and as it has been 5 weeks and your own vet still hasn't had any paperwork, plus (I presumme you rang Fraziers) the nurse there said she knew nothing.....I'd get onto the Royal Veterinary College about them.

After all Reah sees a specialist at Willows Referral Centre twice yearly, 1) all the paperwork is submitted straight away to my vets and 2) I have never come across a nurse there that says she knows nothing.....they have always rang me back with any info I ask for.

These places can be costly, Reah's consult fee is £157 before he even starts (although I will admitt as she is his ''star project'' he usually halves the consult, but even so they can not afford people feeling ''let down'' as they have their good name to protect.

Perhaps it would be better to tell them that if you have no paperwork within the next 24 hours you will be telephone the RVC, as you have paid your money and you expect to have whats rightfully yours.....not just for you but for your vet too.

Well, I've just got off the phone with him. He was quite charming actually and I feel abit bad for perhaps misjudging him.

Firstly the fee is a referral consultation. I did not ask for a health check I came in on a referral for behavioural problems and to check the retina in his eyes as a possible cause. So, because of this the £95 stands, but he said if I put behavioural investigations on the ins form I can claim everything that we've done lately to do with it (over £200 so far, with only £60 excess).

The fee for health checks has gone up apparently and is now just over £40 per check so we've only paid just over this for a consultation as well. I guess it makes sense but we would have been better off just having a health check!

He is on his own in the surgery and is about 6 months behind in his paperwork. I've lectured him about this and urged him to call in for help (even offered my services) but he said he is a man who prefers to do things himself. So, he's going to send my vets a report as soon as possible but that she can call him if she needs to (as advised we need it for ongoing things). He also said that he is happy to confirm that Woody's MRD is so mild he doesn't think there will ever be a problem and will be putting that in his report.

In terms of logging it on the KC site he says apparently in 1980 something the first case of MRD in Golden Retrievers was found. Breeders and vets urged these findings to be put on the KC site but the KC refused. From then on whenever a health certificate is sent to the KC they update everything except MRD. This is outrageous!! Apparently it's 1 in 20 retrievers now that have it and have it so bad they have complete retinal detachment (near blindness).

So, I've left it that I would like this report asap and will chase him again in two weeks. In terms of the MRD I am not worried at all, I have to take his word after all.

Hope I've done everything right. Not sure what else I can do now.

Interesting note: apparently there is more MRD found in working strain springers than show (15% compared to 2% for example).

Ok I have had a long long day so someone tell me if I am missing something obvious, but if this is so, then why are Emma's (rips) Isla's eye test results on there? (Hope you don't mind Emma she was the first health tested springer I thought of!)

http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/se...h/Default.aspx

ETA, her name is canouan out of the blue at bonisla

And just for clarification, what is meant by 'eye disease':

Eye Screening

There is a set list of breeds and eye conditions, known to be inherited in those breeds and that are certified under the Eye Scheme. A dog is certified as unaffected or affected for each condition known to be inherited in the breed.

Key to eye conditions
Code Description
CEA Collie eye anomaly
CHC Congenital hereditary cataract
G Glaucoma
HC Hereditary cataract
PHPV Persistent hyperplastic primary vitreous
PLL Primary lens luxation
PPM Persistent pupillary membrane
CPRA Centralised progressive retinal atrophy
GPRA Generalised progressive retinal atrophy
MRD Multifocal retinal dysplasia
TRD Total retinal dysplasia

As stated on the same site by the KC and MRD is there...???

I dont understand what you are saying.... , are you staying there are no springer's results recorded on the list
Why would you be referred to an eye specialist about behavioural problems..I thought you where referred because your vet suspected MRD.


I might be wrong, but my guess would be it is because working strain breeders fall down a lot in health testing their breeding stock

p,s..just done a seach on 5 springers all results are up on the list!!!!???????

Pidge, this must be driving you mad. My head would be spinning. He's telling you one thing, then you're learning different from those in the know (about the KC results I mean). Hope you get it sorted out

Yep your right.....I can see it.

I don't understand, sorry I am abit confused, I thought Woody was taken ''solely because of his eyes'', it was mentioned before that there was concerns about his eyes and that this was why he was sent to Fraziers..........nothing was mentioned about behaviour, or did I miss something, because I am sure my memory isn't that bad.

I don't know about about CC comment about it ''must be driving you mad'' I know it is doing my head in, sorry I have found this all very confusing.

I can not understand the explanation as I was talking about this to my friend at our vets yesterday and she says all these things are there

Well I don't know either!

Now I don't know anything about KC, eyes or anything to do with breeds and problems.

But I have learned a little bit through this thread and others and this just doesn't add up to me.

From what others have said and from what I have learned there should have been a copy of said certificate at the vets at least and Pidge should have been given a copy. As to the fact that Woody is not on that web site well I just don't understand because according to those in the know, like Shona and Jackbox and others, he should be...shouldn't he?

What does Woody's behaviour have to do with having an eye exam too

Elaine