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24-12-2006, 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by Minihaha 
Well that just about says it all for me Staffer,you will let someone use one of your stud dogs with an aggressive bitch and if she attacks her puppies she won't be allowed to be mated to one of your dogs again
.I see now why you were asking about bitches attacking puppies, if the advertisement (no matter how out of date it was still being displayed 2 days ago) states 'aggressive bitches welcome' to me that sends out the wrong message and you are bound to attract the wrong sort of bitches .
it dosnt matter how i explain it you will change it to suit your self i speak openly what i do i dont hide anything
so carry on
i am past careing
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24-12-2006, 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by staffer
well as you allready know i dont care what you or anybody thinks about me life is to short for me to worry
i am past careing
You should care about advertising ''aggressive bitches well come'' when you advertise your stud dogs.
If the puppies that result from the mating of aggressive bitches (some of them bull breeds no doubt) turn out to have bad temperaments that reflects badly on all bull breeds
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25-12-2006, 01:08 AM
Originally Posted by Minihaha
You may not care what anyone thinks of you Staffer,
You should care about advertising ''aggressive bitches well come'' when you advertise your stud dogs.
If the puppies that result from the mating of aggressive bitches (some of them bull breeds no doubt) turn out to have bad temperaments that reflects badly on all bull breeds
i said if they are ppl aggresive i would not breed from them if they are dog aggressive i would mate them
how many ppl have took a bitch for mateing and she attacked the dog? and the dog gets put off
well my dogs are good stud dogs and will mate a bitch if she is dog aggressive,
and there is no doubt, yes most are bull breeds
i think most of you breeders of the bull breed have done enough damage to the breed with out my help
funny how you all quick to judge me and go on i breed so many differant breeds and sell so many pups
but funny know one has ever come on here or other web site and said they have bought a bad puppie of me
with tempermenet problams or health problams,they only talk about my different breeds,
not that i am saying i am perfect but something to think about isnt it
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25-12-2006, 02:15 AM
Originally Posted by dougiepit
staffer, am I clear in saying your prepared to mate a bitch that has previously turned on pups????
but i will mate a bitch that is diffacult to mate and attacks the stud dogs as a lot of them do ,
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26-12-2006, 12:08 AM
Originally Posted by staffer
i have explained when it said aggresive bitches welcome i mean dog agressive not ppl aggressive
and yes cross breeds wellcome
all true
have you anything new you want to say that is not old news
How can your advertisements saying ''AGGRESIVE BITCHES MOST WELLCOME'' (along with the one for Doberman puppies which you said you would hold until Christmas ) be old news when they appeared in the paper less than a week ago?
Originally Posted by staffer
i said if they are ppl aggresive i would not breed from them if they are dog aggressive i would mate them
how many ppl have took a bitch for mateing and she attacked the dog? and the dog gets put off
well my dogs are good stud dogs and will mate a bitch if she is dog aggressive,
and there is no doubt, yes most are bull breeds
i think most of you breeders of the bull breed have done enough damage to the breed with out my help
funny how you all quick to judge me and go on i breed so many differant breeds and sell so many pups
but funny know one has ever come on here or other web site and said they have bought a bad puppie of me
with tempermenet problams or health problams,they only talk about my different breeds,
not that i am saying i am perfect but something to think about isnt it
You say 'I think most of you breeders of the bull breeds have done enough damage without my help ' how much good do you think you are doing to bull breeds when you openly admit to advertising your stud dogs will serve aggressive bitches
How much good will the two bitches (Staffordshire and Bull terrier) you were advertising for sale a few days ago the 'brood bitches without papers' do for bull breeds.
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26-12-2006, 12:22 AM
Originally Posted by Minihaha
I do not think aggressive bitches should be bred from at all , dog or people aggressive, there are plenty of good bitches to breed from without using aggressive ones .
How can your advertisements saying ''AGGRESIVE BITCHES MOST WELLCOME'' (along with the one for Doberman puppies which you said you would hold until Christmas ) be old news when they appeared in the paper less than a week ago?
It sounds as if someone hasn't a clue what they are doing here. Very vew bitches with good temperaments are aggressive when mated if they are mated at the correct time when they are ready to 'stand'. IMO forcing a dog on a bitch that isn't ready to be mated is wrong
You say 'I think most of you breeders of the bull breeds have done enough damage without my help ' how much good do you think you are doing to bull breeds when you openly admit to advertising your stud dogs will serve aggressive bitches
How much good will the two Staffordshire bitches you were advertising for sale a few days ago the 'brood bitches without papers' do for bull breeds.
and why cant i advertise saying hold till x-mas you writing the law know isnt that up to me when i advertise
well if a dog dosnt like other dogs is that a cause not to breed not in my book
well if you read the advert properly there wasnt 2 staffys it was 1 staffy and 1 english bull
and as i explained before and i have to do it again know for ppl who dont have a clue, they are not mine they are advertised on behalf of a freind ,if they were mine i would openly say
and as to not haveing a clue i dont think i would be were i am know if that was the case
plus just because some ppl work in a different way to you or have differant views to you or opinons you have to be angry with them and think they are monsters
can i ask who made you judge and jury or even god?
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26-12-2006, 12:31 AM
Originally Posted by staffer
as you say very few bitches well that isnt saying all is it some bitches are ready to mate but are dog aggressive
and why cant i advertise saying hold till x-mas you writing the law know isnt that up to me when i advertise
well if a dog dosnt like other dogs is that a cause not to breed not in my book
well if you read the advert properly there wasnt 2 staffys it was 1 staffy and 1 english bull
and as i explained before and i have to do it again know for ppl who dont have a clue, they are not mine they are advertised on behalf of a freind ,if they were mine i would openly say
and as to not haveing a clue i dont think i would be were i am know if that was the case
plus just because some ppl work in a different way to you or have differant views to you or opinons you have to be angry with them and think they are monsters
can i ask who made you judge and jury or even god?
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26-12-2006, 11:45 AM
Originally Posted by megan57collies
With a normally good naturered bitch who then turns on her litter, what evidence is there that the litter would be affected in producing on their own litter. Sometimes there is not an explanation why a bitch turns one minute and then is fine with a second litter. I think you can only go on your experience of your dog and your breed.
Putting aside any medical reasons, there is no evidence that a brood bitch turning on her puppies will then reacts with those pups growing up and doing the same thing to their litters. Bitches can also sense things with their litter when things are not right. Many breeders will not post mortem a pup even if the mother kills them. But some who do find out by post mortem that the pup that was killed or rejected by it's mother was seriously deformed internally. Something the bitch picked up on but we would not.
This is why I stated IMO (In My Opinion) I did not state this was backed up by any form of survey. it is an observation I have made in the past, but if a mother is teaching her offspring from the moment it is born, then surely the pup will learn this behaviour from its mother (if it survives her) and so has a higher possibility of becoming like her mother, unlike a pup that has learnt from a good mother will possibly be a good mother herself. once again I personally would not breed from a bad brood bitch based on my own observations this is my opinion, an opinions were invited on this subject.
Mo
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26-12-2006, 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Minihaha
Sometimes a reply is not necessary ,reading between the lines of the previous posts is all that is needed for people to get the meaning ...