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20-03-2011, 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by ClaireandDaisy 
Can you maintain calm assertive enrgy when leaping behind a bush to play a recall game?
Can you have CAE when rolling on the floor tickling your dogs feet to encourage him to play?
Can you have CAE when sending a small relative through an agility tunnel to encourage a shy dog to follow.
Can you maintain CAE when running away like the clappers making high pitched squeals to encourage a reluctant dog to follow?
I`m obviously not dignified enough to train dogs!
Unfortunatly you CAN remain calm and kick someone, hit them with a baseball bat, shoot them
You can do violance to someone without feeling violent
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20-03-2011, 01:26 PM
I've been known to make silly noises whilst doing what looks like a raindanceinthe middle fo the street before now to get a dog to respond. So a complete lack of dignity here too!
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20-03-2011, 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Ben Mcfuzzylugs
lol or running ab out like a loon with a football as your dog jut sits and watches you - and the whole street watches
Unfortunatly you CAN remain calm and kick someone, hit them with a baseball bat, shoot them
You can do violance to someone without feeling violent
i hadnt thought of that.
i suppose yoou are reinforcing what im saying.
cool clam collected/calm assertive energy - they dont describe a behaviour, they describe a state of mind whilst perfoming the behaviour
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20-03-2011, 02:07 PM
Oh that crapping your pants comment was in reference to cm showing fear at times lol.
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Location: Back in Canada, finally!!!!!
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20-03-2011, 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Stumpywop
I can't see the original video but I can imagine all too well what's going on.
I've been known to make silly noises whilst doing what looks like a raindanceinthe middle fo the street before now to get a dog to respond. So a complete lack of dignity here too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=lBKDkI5W0lI
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20-03-2011, 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Krusewalker
In which case, i was correct.
You havent understood the post of mine you quoted, Nor followed all the others I have made on this topic.
As i havent said anything of the sort you have written above.
Misreading posts is one thing, then using that as a basis for asking if i kick dogs, is another.
That would be an idiotic thing to do.
But re your last point: the mantra is fine, Cesar Milan's behaviour isnt.
I wasn't asking you if you kicked dogs (I actually said people), but trying to highlight that just because you can do something, doesn't make it right or mean you should (eg kicking people would, quite rightly, get you into trouble).
Of course you can have CAE and kick a dog, but the point is if you are being CA you shouldn't NEED to kick the dog. If the dogs respond so well to CMs CAE then why does he need to kick them in the first place? The answer is because he's clueless and his "methods" don't work, but hopefully we all already know that!
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20-03-2011, 07:34 PM
I'm not sure if CM genuinely believes his is the right way, or he did and now doesn't, but won't come out and admit it. But in the end it doesn't matter, he still uses those methods/theories.
I think 99.9% of it is complete bollocks, but what does my opinion matter. His seeming obsession with dominance makes me suspect he's got some kind of inferiority complex.
Now, better go check on the dogs, they're out of sight...who knows what they're plotting lol.
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