Ignoring all the crap about "you haven't got wolf crosses", these dogs, whatever you want to call them, are very different. They are smart, they think laterally, you say "jump" and they will say "how high, but btw, what's in it for me, and I don't mean a bloody biscuit!!".

I give you 5 min with Mia before you take back the v different statment
Everyone with a difficult dog feels they are alone and they have the worst of the worst - they see all the people with their good dogs and on bad days are jealous of that

If this collar had not worked IMMEDIATELY, I would not have allowed OH to continue - although what he does when I'm not there, I have no control over of course. All I know is the dog I saw in Harlestone Firs on Sunday was a vision - it was as if he had become his father reincarnated. All the joy, the exuberance, the Ben-ness was there bursting with delight in the pouring rain and mud! The first time I whistled him and called Come, he came belting back to me and skidded to a sit right in front of me and almost knocked me off my feet! He roamed for miles that day, in and out of the trees, in and out of muddy puddles, we never had to use the collar, not once. That's how it should be. I could not have stood seeing him being zapped, even though I know it is only a static shock, NOT electrical current. I am a girl, I don't understand the difference, to me if it hurts, then it hurts and I don't care what it's called. Do you think I would want to have my husband HURT my beloved Ben if I didn't think it was necessary.

No, I am not prepared to say on a public forum what we have gone through, but if anybody is interested I will tell them in a PM on the understanding that it is done on trust.

Ignoring all the crap about "you haven't got wolf crosses", these dogs, whatever you want to call them, are very different. They are smart, they think laterally, you say "jump" and they will say "how high, but btw, what's in it for me, and I don't mean a bloody biscuit!!".

If this collar had not worked IMMEDIATELY, I would not have allowed OH to continue - although what he does when I'm not there, I have no control over of course. All I know is the dog I saw in Harlestone Firs on Sunday was a vision - it was as if he had become his father reincarnated. All the joy, the exuberance, the Ben-ness was there bursting with delight in the pouring rain and mud! The first time I whistled him and called Come, he came belting back to me and skidded to a sit right in front of me and almost knocked me off my feet! He roamed for miles that day, in and out of the trees, in and out of muddy puddles, we never had to use the collar, not once. That's how it should be. I could not have stood seeing him being zapped, even though I know it is only a static shock, NOT electrical current. I am a girl, I don't understand the difference, to me if it hurts, then it hurts and I don't care what it's called. Do you think I would want to have my husband HURT my beloved Ben if I didn't think it was necessary.No, I am not prepared to say on a public forum what we have gone through, but if anybody is interested I will tell them in a PM on the understanding that it is done on trust.

Why do you think it worked so quickly?? because it HURT LOTS

I can tell you when Mia ran tru the 3 electric fences they hurt her LOTS, she was scared to come back tru them
But she showed no pain - dogs are very stoic and it has to hurt like h£ll before they show you
When he shook his head it was hurting
My Ben slit his leg open and didnt make a sound, he let the vet flush it out and glue it without sedation and didnt complain
why? Because it didnt hurt? Course it did - but because dogs are stoic

I am sorry, I know you mean the best for your dogs but this isnt it - husband does not always know best

as for the difference between static and electric
Really the main thing is they are using the words static to make it sound less scary
Static electricity is where one object builds up a charge which then jumps in one uncontroled large burst to another object

What you get from your car is static
So is lighting - does it still sound nice and fluffy?
Its all electricity

Why would you share this info with this group.?