I have already bsaid Licence the owners before they can get a dog-no licence no dog QED

i heard recently that there is a nationwide problem with rescue centres and vets that dont routinely scan dogs that are brought into them, not all but some.

with the point that was just raised about the rescue centres being able to transfer details so that a dog can be put to sleep i cant help but think its time people start thinking about more ways to identify their dogs, be it tattooing or other ways, instead of which is best.

the more id you have the better chance you have of being reunited

the problems with liscensing owners are
1) authorities will be able to make money from applying for, to gaining a liscence
2) who would actually police this? would you have to carry your liscence on all walks
3) if people can clone microchips and cut off tattooed ears what would stop forging a liscence

Just to clarify this statement no dog that has been tattooed by the NDTR has had it's ear cut off

The only dogs to have had their ear tattoos multilated or their ears removed have been racing greyhounds dumped by their owners & this is doen to hide their identity as owners of the dogs

The only reason anyone would try to have a false owners licence would be be they had been banned from owning dogs/cats etc & as this would be part of a current criminal record the police would be able to ID through the central criminal records

It could be run on the lines of driving licences & include a photo etc Not much that a criminal could gain from having a dog owners licence unlike a drivers licence or passport

its all money. if you cant own a dog without a liscence you cant breed from a dog which means you cant make money, and lets face it, the type of person that would forge a liscence would only be in it for the money.

dont get me wrong im all for having some kind of register in place i just cant see how it would be workable. maybe the brains at dogsey can argue something out
(id say debate it but you know that wouldnt work )

and Joedee, what makes you so certain that you'd pass?
Becky

Please keep the thread on topic

Well I doubt Joedee would qaulify as he is a 6 year old Cavalier
I probably wouldn't qualify at all: 48 years of owning well trained & well behaved dogs, being a KCGC assessor, KC qualified Obedience Judge, running a KC registered pet dog training club, being involved in dog rescue for 40 odd years, keeping my dogs in the best of health & not breeding, working the police & being an impartial expert witness called in by several Judges & Justices of the Peace in cases concerning dogs & their behaviour

Nah I definitely wouldn't qualify,I've obviously one of the many bad owners whose dogs stray & multiple at will.

At the large rescue center I work at all dogs are routinely checked for microchips on entering the premises, any dogs found to have chips(whole body is scanned BTW) we contact the chip company to get owners details, ie telephone/address etc, we phone the owners and send out cards to the registered addresses, problem is many times the owners have moved address and not informed the chip company and changed the details. so where does that leave the rescue center, well the dogs stay with us for 7 clear days if the owners have not contacted the center and claimed it(bearing in mind this rescue center is very well known so owners if they contacted the police or dog wardens would be told to get in contact with us, it becomes the property of the center and the dog will go up for rehoming the chip details will be transferred to the new owners.

All dogs without chips or tatoos, on the 7th day of being in the center get micro chipped automatically and as the dog gets rehomed the new owners are transferred over.

dogs entering our center get vaccinated, flea treatment,wormed and then on the 7th day micro chipped, rehoming fees are £60 for mixed breed dog and £75 for a pedigree, now then I would like to see how the statement that large rescues make money out of chipping? bearing in mind some of the dogs in rescue can be there for a very very long time,many need veteranary treatment, special diets etc yet the fees are comparitively low and include the chipping.

Personally I think the chipping is a good thing, we regularly have the same dogs coming back in from dog wardens, having these dogs chipped enables the center to reunite the dogs to their owners very quickly, when you are dealing in large numbers of dogs it is sometimes difficult to find tatoos due to many reasons, ie thick hair in the area, dog may be over stressed and will not allow easy access to ears or inner thighs, finding chips is far easier in these cases.

with regards to how to reduce the amount of dogs in rescue well that is extremely difficult do, as many of the rescues will tell you. we can all make suggestions on how this should be done, and in an ideal world we could work something out. but who will police it?

Mo

dont forget the sheepdog trialling Dyane

Sorry I think that's a bit harsh, AllBreeds Rescue (and many other Rescues) pay a lot of money to microchip their rescues and certainly don't receive any money or sponsorship from the microchip company. Many don't chip member of public’s dogs so it certainly isn't profit making!!!

Cloning chips wouldn’t work as the microchip company can only register the same number once.


This doesn't sound right, if I were you I'd go back to the rescue and speak to the manager demanding they change the 3rd chip into your name. There's a 1 in 3 risk that if your dog was picked up as a stray, the first number to be scanned is the wrong chip number. Once a chip has been found you don't routinely search for another.