LOL Shona - you know i don't feed my girlie, lol. Nah on a serious subject of the weight issues - due to the size, i have tended to keep my leos weight down - this is turn allows her to run, swim and just have fun. There are owners that will feed their dog up thinking that a giant breed dog needs to be a giant size belly, lol.

Also in the male leos (leo, berger, help!!) i believe almost straight away there is approx a 10kg weight difference - which must be through bone density as well as general weight. For those who don't know leos, the males are a lot broader, taller and have the most gorgeous squarer (such a word, lol) face. They really are awesome, so to make them bigger can surely only create problems in the breed. Just my opinion though