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BSunshyne
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04-02-2014, 07:46 PM
Hello All~ Thought I'd post an update. Bear has been responding very well with training. He is learning that he needs to leave the room if he doesn't like the situation with kids. He is accepting my daughter, in that he isn't having an issue when she heads towards the food bowls to dump them out... he stands there and watches her, trying to eat all the pieces of food that end up on the floor. lol. he has been chasing balls that she is starting to throw, but has generally been avoiding her when he wants to relax. very proud of his progress. do I trust him yet? nope. he is still being separated when we have other kids over, but he has been improving. thanks!
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04-02-2014, 07:50 PM
You sound so much happier
Well done Bear and to you xx
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04-02-2014, 07:52 PM
Excellent! I'm glad to hear of the update. I hope all goes well and you keep seeing good results. I'm also glad you didn't put down or re-home the dog.
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04-02-2014, 08:33 PM
This lady asked for help and what she got was a lot of sniping between members and airing of old grievances.
It sounds like she is making a big effort with training and will know in her heart if bear has made sufficient progress to stay in the home which the last update is looking very positive! or if he needs to go to the new home. Best of luck x
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07-02-2014, 01:36 PM
Your update is appreciated. Thanks and well done.
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26-02-2014, 01:37 PM
Sometimes there are bad choices to be made. Do you keep this dog and hope it can be rehabilitated? If so, how long will it take and in that time can you honestly say it will not be a danger to others for even one second? If you re-home it, is there somebody out there who you can 100 PER CENT GUARANTEE will do this (and for the next 8-10 years of the dog's life), and will never ever put a child (never mind an adult) at risk of being bitten?
You are fortunate that the bite to your niece only just "broke the skin". This may have been just a warning to her; next time, if he believes that she hasn't heeded his warning, it could be much worse and even a small dog can remove half a child's face without really trying very hard.
Sorry if this all sounds really harsh, but I have myself taken a young dog that I had carefully bred to include a stable temperament (and had been returned to me as "dangerous and unpredictable" from what I judged to be a good home) to the vet for euthanasia because I saw first hand the damage it had become capable of doing...and yes, it was the sweetest, most lovable, endearing, beautiful dog you could ever meet, except under certain circumstances which would have been impossible to avoid forever and trying to change this would have taken too long and put too many people, including my own children, at risk. Whatever the sad reasons for the behaviour, the risk was the same. So I cried buckets, but I did it.
Sorry this is all negative...if you decide to keep this dog and work with him, I really, really hope you have a good outcome. Good luck.
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26-02-2014, 01:40 PM
Just read updates..really hope everything I put in previous post is proved wrong!
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26-02-2014, 02:23 PM
Originally Posted by BSunshyne View Post
Hello Everyone~ Wanted to give an update on situation. We are going to work on re-training Bear, and if we cannot rehabilitate him, then I will look to find a new home for him. Then if I have to go thie route, I will know I have done everythign possible to help him - that I didn't give up on him. We did recieve a visit from my local Animal Control Officer, he stated that he was happy we were working with a trainer, to try and prevent this in the future. We have also aquired a wire Kennel, which is where Bear will be residing while we have guests at the house that are under 18 - so we prevent another issue in the next few months. We are also starting to work on individualizing the dogs, so that if we do have to re-home Bear, it is not so traumatic for either one. Bear has lost most of his privleges, his resting spot is the floor, rather than a lap. He is learning and responding well to the change. My husband and I are learning how to better help bear cope and stay calm with activity- he gets to go into the other room and lay down until he calms down enough to rejoin us. It is helping so far...he is staying calm longer.

While I don't trust bear 100% with kids outside of the family, I am not fearful that he might bite my daughter. She is almost 9 months now, and we are teaching her how to interact with the boys, showing her how to pet them. Both Bear and Monty are doing well with her being on the ground, playing.

My relationship with my sister is good. we are working to ensure the incident does not hurt our relationship. My neice is healing, no lasting damage/scarring (thank god!).

This is a tough situation for my family,we are working through this.

And someone asked me about bear nipping at my friends son, we had told him from the minute he walked in that he had to leave the dogs alone, he decided not to listen to us. I told him multiple times throught the evening to leave Bear alone. When he started to get upset when Bear nipped at him (did NOT make any contact, just bit at the air) - his mom reminded him that he was told to leave the dogs alone. Bear has also been around many kids in my in-laws family, ages 2 yrs to 15 yrs, when he has enough of the kids, he leaves the room.

thanks!
This is a wonderful and wise post; thank you!

Learning so much as I am needing to socialise my dogs as I age and know that there will be times I am eg in hospital. My problem is that I am alone all the time so they have never been with people at all and I have little chance for any interaction.

But your post is great; full of calm and realism and caring
. THANK YOU!
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06-06-2014, 08:15 PM
Ok, so another update... not so good. we had an incident at the home yesterday. as we believed everything with bear was good, progressing, etc... he bit my daughter yesterday morning. there wasn't any provocation, she wanted to play, and I guess he didn't. My daughter is fine, no major damage (besides a few puncture wounds). But since this is his 2nd strike, my husband and I made the tough decision to re-home him. Bear has had NO ISSUES with adults. Never a nip, growl, bark, nothing. Only with kids. So, we were lucky with a friend of my parents have been shopping for a new schnauzer for 8 months (since her prior schnauzer passed away at 15). She had met both of my dogs many times in the past, and know what is going on. She is a single lady, no kids, no grandkids, and no possibility of them either. with the guidance of my trainer, we have started the re-homing process for Bear. This breaks my heart, I know it is the best for all of us. a home where he will be the only animal, and no kids.
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06-06-2014, 08:44 PM
Sorry to hear that despite all of your efforts Bear has shown that he is still so upset by the actions of children. I am glad you have found a suitable home for him and that you are continuing to work with your trainer and the new owner to get Bear to a happier and safer life.
Good luck and I do hope this works as well as you hope it will for Bear xx
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