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29-07-2009, 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble 
Yep..and also begs the question...what did the dog learn?
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29-07-2009, 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by mse2ponder
Are there worse ones then JD?! The ones that disturbed me I can no longer find on youtube. Coincidence I wonder? Teddy the poodle and Banjo the coonhound (the latter particularly) if anyone can get them.
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29-07-2009, 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by JuniorDaddy
Thats not what I said at all, I asked if it was the worst YOU could find. Do you really think CM has the say over what is & isn't on YouTube? I know he's a God but I don't think he's that good!
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29-07-2009, 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by JuniorDaddy
...not to chase the chickens???
At the point the dog was hit, it was offering calming signals,licking it's lips and looking away from the chicken. How did it teach the dog not to chase chickens. The dog wasn't chasing a chicken at the time. The dog was lying near the chicken doing nothing. When CM moves his hand, the dog looks away and licks it's lips and CM makes that bizarre noise and hits it.
As far as I can see the dog has learned either that CM is pretty scary and hurts him whenever he moves his hand OR that humans around chickens are something to be feared (but if they are not there they are probably fair game) or that humans don't listen to calming signals so they need a stronger message that you are not happy with the situation, like a bite perhaps...OR all of the above.
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29-07-2009, 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
How did it teach the dog that?
At the point the dog was hit, it was offering calming signals,licking it's lips and looking away from the chicken. How did it teach the dog not to chase chickens. The dog wasn't chasing a chicken at the time. The dog was lying near the chicken doing nothing. When CM moves his hand, the dog looks away and licks it's lips and CM makes that bizarre noise and hits it.
As far as I can see the dog has learned either that CM is pretty scary and hurts him whenever he moves his hand OR that humans around chickens are something to be feared (but if they are not there they are probably fair game) or that humans don't listen to calming signals so they need a stronger message that you are not ahppy with the situation, like a bite perhaps...OR all of the above.
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29-07-2009, 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Tassle
But the dog was not chasing the chickens....
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29-07-2009, 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by CheekyChihuahua
If I knew the full circumstances, saw the whole programme, maybe I'd have a different view, now really I'm off, I cannot listen to anymore of this. I'm glad you are such an open minded person that you "know it all" from a clip that lasts a few seconds.
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