Minihaha, Im having to defend a breed that is in danger more than most breeds to a global mod on a big forum world wide. If i get heated, passionate its because i love this breed and do not want to see anymore damage come to it, if i dont follow the rules or guidelines to this forum, then Mods/Admin/Members im very sorry, but my love and passion for Bull breeds will not be pushed aside to rules and I wont sit by and allow people to discriminate and damage the breed any further than it has already, Just like i wouldnt sit back if there was a racist attack on this forum and go oh i better no saying anything due to rules, I have not personally attacked you, nor have i swore or been rude too you, im simply defending myself agaisnt you, and more importantly defending a fantastic canine god of all breeds which has bad press and many killed for no reason but looks.
My fight for Bull Breeds does not just happen on Dogsey, but off the internet and on other forums.
There is no human aggression minihaha in the pit bull so there is no need to breed this out. Just because I voice what i believe to be correct, Im not the only person on this forum or or stafford owner who believe like I do, but i will speak my honest mind. In the Stafford and Pit Bull there is no human aggression,if so then i its not true to its spirit and therefor should be pts.[B] I dont want have a a stafford that is not true to its correct spirit. Its up to us owners to understand, control and respect it.
So lets try not to get off topic Minihaha and get back to Pitbulls.

Pitbulls are not a dangerous breed of dog, they can be dangerous compared to a smaller less powerful breeds,

It seems there are a lot of threads leading to this at the moment, so better to have it one place.
Do you think Pit Bull Terriers (The ones that are banned in the UK and many other places) are dangerous? IF SO SAY WHY.
Do you think they are not dangerous? IF SO SAY WHY.
Before getting involved in the discussion, please make sure your first post in this thread makes your position clear on the topic.
ONLY take part in this discussion if you are willing to provide reasons to back up your views, we don't want any empty comments, but a proper discussion.

How can you truly love your breed when all you do is try and change it, Because if you did truely love your breed you would not want to change any aspect of it..

If there were no more pit bulls in the UK or even the world lets say the become extinct, the vile people who enjoy dog fighting would choose another breed would we then ban that one.

It's not the dogs' fault that they have high within species aggression. They are just responding to their environment and expression of their genes in the only way they know how. The factors that control the aggression, namely breeding and environment, are almost entirely under human control.

It could be that in the USA there has been selective breeding to improve temperament, with enough of a sub population to reform the breed with less aggression. But I don't see this as a possibilty in the UK, where there is legislation against their ownership and where they are more likely to have been bred for the wrong reasons.

I don't think it sad at all if these poor, abused dogs no longer exist, and I don't mean they should be put to sleep for no valid reason, just that they should no longer be bred.

I would even go as far as stating that any Bully or Mastiff breed is not a breed for everyone, yes they look awfully nice as puppies infact many of the larger breeds with heavy wrinkle look so cute when they are young (herein more than likely lies the problem) people have to see past this and look at the bigger picture because a lot of the Bully and Mastiff breeds are specialist, not dangerous, just specialist, every one of them is unique, has different traits and every one of these breeds needs a certain type of owner/handler some need to be more experienced than others, some breeds really are not for the first timer. But I do understand that everyone has to start somewhere if they choose a dog as a pet.
I think the best possible thing that could happen for the Pit Bull in the UK is to stay on that ban list (I'm probably going to get slated for that, but I really don't care) it's already a victim of it's own success the torture these dogs suffer is appauling and it needs to be stamped out worldwide, not the dogs, just the suffering for them and until that suffering is eradicated there is no future for the Pit Bull

And that's what I tried to say at the beginning. The breed is better off banned here to prevent the terrible abuse it goes through.
Becky

Is the Pitbull is only in existence because of the sport of dog fighting, like pod has said


During the mid-1800s, immigration to the United States from Ireland and England brought an influx of these dogs to America, mainly to Boston, where they were bred to be larger and stockier, working as farm dogs in the West as much as fighting dogs in the cities. The resulting breed, also called the American Pit Bull Terrier, became known as an "all-American" dog. Pit bull type dogs became popular as family pets for citizens who were not involved in dog-fighting or farming. In the early 1900s they began to appear in films, one of the more famous examples being Pete the Pup from the Our Gang shorts (later known as The Little Rascals).

During World War I the breed's widespread popularity led to its being featured on pro-American propaganda posters.

I don't think so


Huntsville, Alabama police raided a dog-fighting arena on Feb 28, 2002 and seized 10 Pit Bulls. The city's attempt to legally euthanize four pit bull puppies, never trained to fight, was stopped by Madison County Circuit Court Judge Joe Battle, who ruled that the pit bull puppies were not dangerous by virtue of their genetics alone (AP Wire; Apr 6, 2002).

Huntsville appealed to the Alabama Supreme Court, which affirmed (City of Huntsville v. Sheila Tack et al., 1010459, S.C. Alabama; Aug 30, 2002) the Circuit Court opinion by a 6-2 vote; the written dissent addressed procedural matters of legal status of the parties, not the nature of the dogs. The puppies were adopted.

I feel sick when I see the videos posted about PBT, ironically they are frequently posted by those who do not wish to see any action taken to prevent such cruelty and torture,( sorry, I don't mean everyone who posts the videos) one has to wonder if some of these people secretly support dog fighting.

My ending statement is
American Pit Bull Terrier as not dangerous.

Originally Posted by HayleySBT
How can you truly love your breed when all you do is try and change it, Because if you did truely love your breed you would not want to change any aspect of it

..are you saying if you truly love PBTs you will not try to change them and breed out aggression be it dog to dog or dog to human?