Paddywack ,Yes ethical breeders always take their puppies back though they tend to have waiting lists for their puppies and choose the new owners with great care so returned dogs/rescue dogs aren't really a problem.

I would be very much against naming and shaming as you suggest, I am against witch hunts and accusing people when I am not in possession of the full facts.

I know of one very ethical breeder on here who had one of her lovely dogs sold on without her knowledge, she did everything in her power to find that dog and did so eventually. It could so easily have ended up in rescue.

From your posts you seem very anti breeders and pro rescues (though your profile and lack of introduction tell us little about yourself) I can think of a couple of rescues that are less than perfect but I wouldn't think of trying to name and shame them from a position of anonymity on a website without being in possession of the full facts, I would take any information I might have to the appropriate authorities.

Yes ethical breeders should take back dogs they have bred but do we, as dog lovers, really want BYB and puppy farmers/dealers to take their dogs back - surely these poor dogs would be better off with the breed rescue. After all the BYB and farmers/dealers found the first home and weren't very careful about that, what makes us think they will make a better job of it second time around. As for naming and shaming - do they really care?

It's not about getting them to take dogs back, it's about exposing them as ruthless money hungry breeders.

Yes, some of them do care about being exposed, as some of them Show dogs and wouldn't appreciate the bad publcity a such,

I personally think it'd be a good idea. It would shame the so called ethical breeders who give genuine ethical breeders a bad name.

It is a good idea anne but thats all it ever can be a idea ,unless one wants to end up in court for slander as I said before it would only be hearsay as who would have the facts.xxzbx

It would only be slander if you lied.

Scenario - rescue comes in with papers - breeder contacted - doesn't want to know - name goes on list.

If a breeder's dog was falsely put on the list, or the breeder hadn't been contacted first then yes they could push for slander and would have every right to. But I can't imagine rescues would just add names for the sake of it.

I think what she was getting at is the fact that for Slander to be ruled out, you would need to prove that they refused to take the dog back ! It's your word over theirs, unless you send them a form of sorts as confirmation that for whtever reason they couldnt take the dog back and returned the form to the rescue, which I can't see them complying with.

You could send a letter recorded delivery - wouldn't need to be signed and returned.

If it isn't returned how are you going to prove they refused to take the dog back ???

You can't "assume" they refused, to rule out slander.

It'd be the very same procedure for when you get in microchipped strays but you can't get hold of the owner/not returning calls.