As usual, you have wasted no opportunity in mentioning our use of an e collar to solve a huge problem we had with Ben's recall. That problem is now solved, but to use such a device to cure him of DA is neither appropriate nor the correct method.

We did not "let our DA dog off the lead on our driveway", so don't misrepresent the facts. She had full view that our dogs were loose on the driveway as we got them from the car to our front door, a distance of just 2 feet. SHE chose to walk across our drive, instead of just waiting a couple of seconds whilst we got the dogs inside. We had no idea she was there, but she knew we were there. Ipso facto, although I would not be so unfair as to blame her for walking across the drive instead of waiting 2 seconds for us to go inside, that is exactly what our insurance company have said. Not that this incident is anything to do with the issue they are involved with.

Poor Jake, hope he is fully recovered now.

Again, though, you have missed my point. I have never denied that the lab should not have been stitched - I have said that I personally would not have taken my dog to the vet for such a trivial wound. But they wanted to, as is their right and I have no problem with it. IMO it was completely over the top, no blood vessels were involved, no flesh had been removed, it was as I have described, a skin shave, a scrape. A skin split for want of a better description.

Gnasher, sorry I thought you were male, verbally apologising is no good, it will just aggravate the issue, and if by KRLYR'S remarks that you allowed you dog to be free knowing your dog has been aggressive then you are at fault, a dog that is known to be aggressive and not muzzled or kept control of in a public place, then sorry you are committing an offence. Your neighbours are very tolerant to say the least they could easily have reported you to the police. Can you state the true facts because it isn't very clear what you have stated. Was your dog being contained or not?

It is not clear to me from your posts
Are there any gates that your neighbour had to open to be on your driveway or is it open for her to walk across?

I did not say you did, so don't misrepresent my post. I said that you had Ben off-lead, i.e. not on a lead, was that not the case?

I'm not meaning to be like the inquisition, just trying to get my head around what has happened. I'm not being rude but your posts seem very obtuse and hard to follow? Maybe it's just me?

So the invoice listed exactly what treatment etc was given by the vet on each visit? But this was not on letterheaded paper?And attached to this were visa reciepts that just show amounts but not what was done per visit?

Have I got that right?

If it was as skin scrape as you describe there would be no way a Vet would or would be able to stitch it. Did you not say the dog has stitches?

I have read your posts, why else would someone go on a forum. Yes to read posts, there would be no point otherwise looking on forums would there. doh!!!!! I brought up Cry Wolf as I know that is one forum where I read your posts where you told a different story.

Maybe if you had spent less time learning about wolf % and more time learning how to be a responsible dog owner, you would not be in the mess you are in now.

Yup, it is entirely open plan, the whole thing. Pedestrians just walk straight onto the narrow bit of the drive and that opens up into a huge roughly circular area where we park the cars, and then her entrance is off that to the right, no gates at all.