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16-06-2007, 06:42 PM
Originally Posted by spot 
Rescues try very hard not to get it wrong and certainly do not want dogs to bounce constantly or rehome to the wrong home on purpose! A rescue will already have incurred expenses on the dogs as Ive already stated. How much would you give back of the £100 after speying, vaccs, worming etc.
What would you charge if a dog had come in requiring vet treatment that could run into thousands? Would you then pass that on to the adoptee? Do you really think rescues make a profit out of rehoming? Most I know are always desperate for money so they can keep helping more dogs especially the old and the ill.
As a breeder you choose to incurr those expenses. Should rescues then choose which dogs they take in - the old or ill being too costly to their profit margins? Many of the dogs are in rescue for months how much feeding costs would that incurr?
Do you really believe that whatever the donation is goes anywhere near covering the costs of rehoming a dog?
Your contract states that money will be given back if and when the dog is resold, but with out of pocket expenses taken out, is that not more of an incentive for people to try and sell your pups on to get all the money back or even more?
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16-06-2007, 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by Sal
Personally I would like to see tighter restrictions on advertising,breeding and selling of all dogs.I would like no more ads in free papers,local evening papers and these freeas on the net.If these were in place I believe we might see a reduction in byb breeders purely for money,because they have no place for advertising.
I would like to see all pups chipped(compulsary) before they leave there Breeder,I would like to see heavy fines,for those breeders that don't comply.
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16-06-2007, 06:51 PM
Originally Posted by Sal
If my pups go locally I do unannounced spot checks,which has worked very well,we also state whatever the time night or day,if you have any worries or concerns ring us.I don't care if it's 3 in the morning.
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16-06-2007, 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by AnneUK
To be honest with you not very much compared to what some of the other rescues are doing, however we will act on those we hear about, informing other rescues and the authorities where possible and continually try to educate the general public.
I think the problem with offering to refund is it gives people the wrong impression, I don't want potential adopters thinking; we can see how it goes if it doesn't work out after all we can get our money back! Adopting a dog should be seen as a long term commitment no matter what. They're not goods to be bought and refunded. So as a general rule no, although having said that in ten years we've only had one return, so it's not something we come across very often
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16-06-2007, 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Hewey
Clearly they are not dependent on these palty "donations" or they would be out of business.
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16-06-2007, 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Hewey
I think your record is commendable. :smt001
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16-06-2007, 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by AnneUK
That's the thing it's not a business, there's no profit to be made, I have to continually supplement AllBreeds Rescue otherwise it wouldn't be able to carry on.
I have no diffiuculty in understanding and appreciating that, I also appreciate you, personally, don't do this because you place yours carefully enough not to have returns (not sure how you have avoided deaths etc though :smt001 ) but does that make it ethical to sell a dog twice and does it create an incentive for less ethical rescuers to engineer it so? I believe it may do and as the rescue would be no worse off than if the placing had been successful I really can't see a justification for it.BTW I'm sorry I mean business in the generic sense, like "meaning business" I know you are non profit making :smt001
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16-06-2007, 07:08 PM
Originally Posted by Hewey
it has nothing to do with my point which is the incentives that could be created for certain rescues perhaps in not giving refunds.
probably for some byb's too
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16-06-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by AnneUK
For dog dealers or dd's passing themselves off as rescue yes I agree it probably is an incentive
probably for some byb's too
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16-06-2007, 07:31 PM
Originally Posted by Hewey
I have no diffiuculty in understanding and appreciating that, I also appreciate you, personally, don't do this because you place yours carefully enough not to have returns (not sure how you have avoided deaths etc though :smt001 )
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