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14-10-2008, 07:53 AM
Originally Posted by whippetwatch View Post
It is totally ridiculous. People who cannot or will not walk their dogs should not have them.



I hope the vet threatened her within an inch of her life. Poor animal.
That's why I didn't want to say anything, she was seeing my usual vet so I knew she would get an earful once in the room He did look dejected
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14-10-2008, 07:54 AM
No-one IMO should get a dog/pup if they have no intention of walking it..... but, some dogs can't handle being in the big bad wo-ld and hate being away f-om home and I know a dog like that, it is infact a GSD and I posted about he- ages ago, but now I know the full facts I know she is best at home, she hates people and dogs.... She has two dogs at home to play with and a huge ga-den.....
When I had my accident Jamie had limited walks and I contacted alot of dog walke-s, no-one wanted to know, as he pulled and had lousy -ecall, I had to st-uggle to walk the block with him just to get him out, he would have gone mad without that walk.... I also played with him in my medium ga-den
In an ideal wo-ld, ALL dogs should be out and about, but its not an ideal wo-ld and its not just humans that can't cope with life...
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14-10-2008, 08:10 AM
I do think it's cruel to get a pup with the intention of never walking it. Maybe an oldie would have been more suitable, However I think well balanced dogs can cope surprisingly well when their walks are suddenly curtailed due to ill health, injury etc. Fairly recently I was unable to venture out for an entire month and all the dogs coped admirably. They didn't go stir crazy or act up on their first adventure out. Luckily it was only a month because long term I would certainly have to make alternative arrangements.
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14-10-2008, 08:35 AM
It is very wrong to get a dog with the intention of it never going for walks. If you can't walk it yourself then before even considering a dog you should put in place provision for someone to come in and take it out each day.
The only exception would be if the dog had health reasons why it couldn't go out.
Its just not fair either mntally or physically.
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14-10-2008, 08:40 AM
Originally Posted by honeysmummy View Post
So with regards to my first post....do you think the RSPCA would do anything about someone buying a pup they dont intend to walk or is it out of their control?? Anyone know??
Why don't you just give them a bell and ask? They may not be able to do anything but there is no harm in asking. Also maybe they would consider just going to see this woman for a chat, although from how you described her I doubt she would take any notice.

Let us know how you get on,

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14-10-2008, 08:43 AM
I've made no secret of the fact that I physically cannot do traditional walks with my dog. If I didn't have a partner who loves to be out and about, I wouldn't have a dog at all.
The closest I get to "walks" is when I take her with me to the field. It's secure and there's no one else around, so she can run herself silly and I can sit down to play fetching games, but I don't like doing it alone. If she got into trouble, I would struggle to get to her, so I always prefer my OH or a friend to be with us.

Hopefully all that will change when I get my mobility scooter in a few weeks but I will still need someone with us until we're both confident. But even so, I certainly couldn't have Amberella if a short walk alongside the scooter was all she was getting. By her very nature, she desires the opportunity to run. Since she was spayed last week, she has been sulking at the lack of "proper" exercise - apparently walks on-lead are just not good enough, no matter how far you walk for!

There are some dogs who, for medical or emotional reasons, can't be walked in the way that most dog owners think of it. I do honestly feel that such dogs tend to be a minority, as most of the people I know IRL who do not walk their dogs always have a reason such as "he pulls", "she barks" or the ever popular "I work all day and I'm too tired". Such excuses are simply not fair on the dog. The pulling and barking issues would probably be resolved with socialisation, and IMHO "working long hours" is not a good excuse not to walk a dog.
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14-10-2008, 08:50 AM
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How sad for that GSD. Poor thing won't have a life, more an existance. It's totally wrong and very cruel. The should rehome the dog and get a bloody cat!
I think its very easy to be judgemental in these things and until the circumstances are known - oh and of course its so easy to rehome a dog these days!

Originally Posted by whippetwatch View Post
It is totally ridiculous. People who cannot or will not walk their dogs should not have them.

I hope the vet threatened her within an inch of her life. Poor animal.
Regardless of the circumstances or the dog in question or what is done with the dog?

Or in the case of my parents old dog – when they took it on it was very over weight and could not walk far at first – yet you would have them berated to an inch and the dog taken off of them. How nice of you.

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I think people should get(or at least try) their dog out at least once a day. For those who dont I wouldnt say its cruel as such without knowing the full story as there is often reasons why, and if you cant at least play some mental games inside. Those who are just to lazy have no excuse though.
Arh the voice of reason.

Originally Posted by ClaireandDaisy View Post
Then get someone else to walk the dog! Having seen the sad results - overweight, claws growing into feet, unsocialised, terrified of new experiences, stir-crazy dogs, how can you not recognise it as cruelty?
Oh the overweight thing again! What if the problem is with the dog. Some people like to look at the whole picture before deciding what cruelty is before jumping on someone.

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And if you cant get someone to walk it, afterall alot of people dont like dogs.

The point I am making is there is 101 reasons why a dog may not go out daily and its not always cruel, there will be many times it is cruel and the owners are idiots, but not always. So I would never put all non-walked dogs under the same blanket.
Excellent post

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Ideally I would walk mine miles everyday, but we don't live in an ideal world sadly. How much exercise they get very much depends on how fit I am. They don't suffer, I play all the time indoors with them, and my vet has on more than one occasion praised their fitness for their ages so I must be doing something right.

We also have 4 large staffie cross dogs at the end of our road and it's far safer for my dogs not to be walked past the house unless we can see they are not in the front of the house !

Yes those who say we shouldn't have dogs have a point but our circumstances have changed since we got them, and our choice of dog would be different now than when we chose them back then.

I think it's better they live out their days here with us than be wrenched from their homes and rehomed as they are devoted to each other and to us. They are both rescue dogs and the rescues they came from are aware of our circumstances and are happy the dogs are still happy and well cared for so we will carry on as we are for the time being.
Think you’ve made a very valid point and certainly not confined to owning a goldfish!

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Sounds like you are doing a great job with her Vicki, not all dogs like walking !
Totally agree

Originally Posted by Rookgeordiegirl View Post
forgot to add a dog walker round here costs at least £17 perdog...........I have 4 I gave up work to look after FIL the government pay me £52 weekly to look after him24/7so it wouldnt go far would it.(Must get off my soap box)
I'll give you a hand down hon - you do great by yours and again shouldnt be forced to rehome them and get a goldfish

Originally Posted by honeysmummy View Post
So with regards to my first post....do you think the RSPCA would do anything about someone buying a pup they dont intend to walk or is it out of their control?? Anyone know??
Its out of their control.
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14-10-2008, 09:17 AM
Becaue it`s unavoidable doesn`t make it right. It`s not right for dogs to spend years in rescue centres, it`s not right for dogs to be used as breeding stock in puppy farms - and it`s not right for a dog to be confined all its life. I`m sure no-one is criticising people who are unable to excercise their dog for short periods due to illness etc. - but to deliberately confine an animal that loves to play and run, to damage it`s behaviour by not socialising it, to allow it spend half a life - for years and years - come on...you surely have to admit that`s cruel.
I will add that I could easily have allowed Daisy to remain in the house - she was totally unsocialised when I got her. I very much doubt if she`d been out of her previous owner`s garden - ever!. She spooked at traffic, shops, passers-by, umbrellas etc. All these things were new and frightening to her. Now she enjoys life.
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14-10-2008, 09:24 AM
I dont walk mine everyday but i let them have long extended runs/swiming a couple of times a week. But they arent affected but not going out every day. But I think that it is different to having no walks at all.
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14-10-2008, 09:30 AM
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Or in the case of my parents old dog – when they took it on it was very over weight and could not walk far at first – yet you would have them berated to an inch and the dog taken off of them. How nice of you.

Were those the circumstances of that particular dog and owner? That was not the gist given in the post. I am sure the vet would know the circumstances and advise accordingly.

Do you honestly think a vet would chew the ear off someone who had recently rehomed a fat dog?

Where in my post did I say the dog should have been taken from the owner?
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