I need some advice

hi,
i have a 1 year old bernese mountain dog who is generally quite well behaved having passed his bronze, silver and gold good citizen awards, i am having a problem when i take him to the park and he sees a young dog, if he meets an adult dog he will greet them and come away but if he meets a puppy he will not leave it alone, he needs to be taken away on his lead, if you walk half a mile away and let him off his lead he does a 90mph race back to the puppy, nothing will distract him, he is so focussed. can anyone give me any advice, he is unneutered as vets advise he is not fully grown yet.
ive tried calling him really entusiastically, using squeaky toys, treats etc, if there are adults dogs he comes back without a problem.

When you say meet a puppy, what exactly do you mean.

Is it on or off lead and how does he approach the puppy, and is the outcome always the same ie dog sees pup, dog always meets pup, dog always has good time with pup?

Perhaps you might wish to consider not being so predictable and not classically conditioning the dog to assume pup = good time?


Anything here helpful?


Ultimate Recall: 4 Day Course with John Rogerson
• Training a reliable, automatic, non-negotiable, reality recall
• Building block and foundation training of the recall
• Relationship/influence building in recall training
• The chasing/emergency recall
• Sit and/or down on recall
• Freeze/stop on recall/running wait
• Distance/direction control
• Calling dogs off of distractions
• Out of sight recall (owner hidden)
• Obedience/competition recall (dog is called from a stationary position)
• Free running recall (dog is called while in motion)
• Type "A" recall (dog re-joins his owner in motion)

JOHN RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJUST COURSE CONTENT BASED ON THE ABILITIES OF DOGS AND HANDLERS ENROLLED ON THE COURSE.

Dates for Ultimate Recall Course:

At Andover, England
7th-10th August , 2012; 4 day duration 9.30 am-4.00 pm
To register contact Pauline Wise at pauline@wiseowl.wanadoo.co.uk

At Nottingham, England
26th – 29th October, 2012; 4 days duration 9.30-4.00 pm (Note: New Date!)
To register contact Beverly Smith at bev@inlinedogtraining.co.uk

http://www.johnrogerson.com/2012coursesschedule.pdf

Chase Recall Masterclass

Date: Thursday 1st November 2012 Venue: Windsor, Berkshire Max handler places: 10
9.30am registration, 10.00am - 4pm Refreshments and a light lunch included

Following on from the fabulous Chase Recall Masterclass with Stella Bagshaw earlier this month, we are pleased to announce a date for the Chase Recall Practical Masterclass.

In this Masterclass we will be exploring:
How to tailor your training depending on your dog's scorpion level
How to build your training based on practical, workable exercises
How to move from one training level to the next in the real world
Perfecting the advanced "leave"
How, when and what signals to use
Line handling skills that make all the difference
Getting scent to work for you
Games to play with your dog on line
Dogs attending do not need to have a chase/recall issue, but it's a perfect opportunity if they do! Dogs do need
to be social with people and other dogs.

Please be assured that even if you don't bring a dog you will learn just as much from Stella's unique and innovative training approaches. Please note, the venue has a large hall and outside areas – we will be training in both, so please bring suitable outdoor wear.

Non handler place @ £130 (deposit £65)
Handler @ £145 (deposit £65)

http://www.apdt.co.uk/documents/Chas...calNov2012.pdf


Books

Stop! How to control predatory Chasing in Dogs
by David Ryan

Chase! Managing Your Dog's Predatory Instincts
By Clarissa Von Reinhardt

DVD

REALLY RELIABLE RECALL
by Leslie Nelson

Website articles:


http://www.apdt.co.uk/documents/RECALL.pdf

http://www.deesdogs.com/documents/reliable_recall.pdf

http://www.clickerdogs.com/perfectrecall.htm

http://www.clickerdogs.com/listofreinforcers.htm

http://www.clickerdogs.com/distracti...yourrecall.htm

http://www.clickerdogs.com/createamotivatingtoy.htm

http://www.cleverdogcompany.com/tl_f...e%20recall.pdf

http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/teaching-come/

http://www.dog-secrets.co.uk/how-do-...y-dog-chasing/

Bernese stay young till at least 3 in the mind anyway.

It sounds like he is finding the pull of another young dog very interesting as they are willing to play and muck about too. Older dogs are possibly giving off the body language of we don't want to play. So when he gets there the fun is not forthcoming so you become interesting again.

Harness and long line and plenty of training on recall. Treats and fuss get these dogs eating out of your hand. Also silly high pitched voice when calling him back this works a treat on Dillon he wheels around and comes flying back to fuss and a tasty treat. When it is clear try making him walk to heel drop the line hold treat in your hand near his nose and make him walk to heel with you. It will take time but you wil get there.

Dillon is allowed to interact with other dogs but on my terms. He would love to play with every dog he see's thats where the harness and long line come in I take it up on a slack and walk the other way if I know the other dog is ball focused we have one where we walk and he hates dogs getting in his face so Dillon is not allowed too. We either keep walking on a slack long line this is teaching them to stay with you but you have control with some distance or we stand and wait till they have moved on. Again plenty of treats and praise.

Example you see another dog take the long line not rigid but slack and keep walking. Calling his name in a silly high pitched voice all the time till the distance is long enough to let him go again. Do this as often as possible even when there are no distractions about keep changing direction and calling.

Also he is feeling his feet males can be a little stubborn at times. Dilllon is 9 months old and can be a bit of a trial but not on walks. Do you have contact with the breeder for advice too ?

Pictures please.

Puppies are fun for a young dog, I suppose you can relate it to a 4 year old meeting up with another 4 year old or younger, they want to play, unlike if they met up with an adult who they'd just say hello to and stand there or walk off.

Are you worried that your big boy might hurt a little puppy if allowed a short playtime then, under the strictest supervision I hasten to add. I remember when my gsd was about 6 months old, she was big, and yet watching her play with a little 14 week old border terrier was quite amazing how she did her utmost to keep her distance so as not to hurt it.

You sound like you're trying your utmost to be more fun to be with than that little puppy, but your dog has other ideas. If I were you, I'd do all of that playing and jumping around with yours, whilst I was leaving said puppy, so that the focus is taken off him instantly, and hopefully, he'll forget it after a few minutes. Good luck!

hi, thankyou for the advice, barry is off lead, greets the dogs by bounding over, he initially sniffs the dog, if its an older dog he will have a bit more of a sniff and try and get it to play, if its a young dog he sniffs it, nuzzles it, really sniffs all its fur basically tries to give it a good all over sniff and playful nudges. he licks female dogs down below, doesnt harm them in any way but i can appreciate his size when he is next to a puppy a few weeks old as barry is young but he is a big lad. im sure he will grow out of it as he used to be a bit like that with all dogs but now he likes to chase older dogs
ill try and figure out how to send a picture of my handsome boy
thanks barbara


okeybear;2569772]When you say meet a puppy, what exactly do you mean.

Is it on or off lead and how does he approach the puppy, and is the outcome always the same ie dog sees pup, dog always meets pup, dog always has good time with pup?

Perhaps you might wish to consider not being so predictable and not classically conditioning the dog to assume pup = good time?


Anything here helpful?


Ultimate Recall: 4 Day Course with John Rogerson
• Training a reliable, automatic, non-negotiable, reality recall
• Building block and foundation training of the recall
• Relationship/influence building in recall training
• The chasing/emergency recall
• Sit and/or down on recall
• Freeze/stop on recall/running wait
• Distance/direction control
• Calling dogs off of distractions
• Out of sight recall (owner hidden)
• Obedience/competition recall (dog is called from a stationary position)
• Free running recall (dog is called while in motion)
• Type "A" recall (dog re-joins his owner in motion)

JOHN RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJUST COURSE CONTENT BASED ON THE ABILITIES OF DOGS AND HANDLERS ENROLLED ON THE COURSE.

Dates for Ultimate Recall Course:

At Andover, England
7th-10th August , 2012; 4 day duration 9.30 am-4.00 pm
To register contact Pauline Wise at pauline@wiseowl.wanadoo.co.uk

At Nottingham, England
26th – 29th October, 2012; 4 days duration 9.30-4.00 pm (Note: New Date!)
To register contact Beverly Smith at bev@inlinedogtraining.co.uk

http://www.johnrogerson.com/2012coursesschedule.pdf

Chase Recall Masterclass

Date: Thursday 1st November 2012 Venue: Windsor, Berkshire Max handler places: 10
9.30am registration, 10.00am - 4pm Refreshments and a light lunch included

Following on from the fabulous Chase Recall Masterclass with Stella Bagshaw earlier this month, we are pleased to announce a date for the Chase Recall Practical Masterclass.

In this Masterclass we will be exploring:
How to tailor your training depending on your dog's scorpion level
How to build your training based on practical, workable exercises
How to move from one training level to the next in the real world
Perfecting the advanced "leave"
How, when and what signals to use
Line handling skills that make all the difference
Getting scent to work for you
Games to play with your dog on line
Dogs attending do not need to have a chase/recall issue, but it's a perfect opportunity if they do! Dogs do need
to be social with people and other dogs.

Please be assured that even if you don't bring a dog you will learn just as much from Stella's unique and innovative training approaches. Please note, the venue has a large hall and outside areas – we will be training in both, so please bring suitable outdoor wear.

Non handler place @ £130 (deposit £65)
Handler @ £145 (deposit £65)

http://www.apdt.co.uk/documents/Chas...calNov2012.pdf


Books

Stop! How to control predatory Chasing in Dogs
by David Ryan

Chase! Managing Your Dog's Predatory Instincts
By Clarissa Von Reinhardt

DVD

REALLY RELIABLE RECALL
by Leslie Nelson

Website articles:


http://www.apdt.co.uk/documents/RECALL.pdf

http://www.deesdogs.com/documents/reliable_recall.pdf

http://www.clickerdogs.com/perfectrecall.htm

http://www.clickerdogs.com/listofreinforcers.htm

http://www.clickerdogs.com/distracti...yourrecall.htm

http://www.clickerdogs.com/createamotivatingtoy.htm

http://www.cleverdogcompany.com/tl_f...e%20recall.pdf

http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/teaching-come/

http://www.dog-secrets.co.uk/how-do-...y-dog-chasing/[/QUOTE]

hi,
im not in the least worried that he will hurt the puppy and i think its lovely the way he cares for them, the puppies new owners are a bit aprehensive as barry is young but a big dog and looks like an adult, some people just dont want a big dog near a puppy although barry isnt really doing anything wrong you have to respect their wishes.

I think the key things are:

Does your dog wait for permission from you to approach another dog?

have you ascertained from the other owner if they wish to be approached by your dog?

Are both dogs and both owners happy?

I certainly understand why an owner of a puppy or small breed would not want my 40kg GSD bounding over to them as he could hurt them without intending to, just by falling on them.