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23-05-2007, 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by Nicci_L View Post
First off I would like to say I do like Bandogges

I think in the right hands they make wonderful working dogs and faithful companions, but I do agree with Becky here about the puppy socialisation classes you had this pup as a pet dog why would she need to be 'guardian' dog trained?
Secondly this might not be what you want to hear, these are definitely not first time 'Molosser' dogs they do need experienced handling and an owner who is going to be extremely firm and consistent with them right from the start.
I do veiw my self as an axperenced handler although I have trained a few beagles I grew up with bandogges and mother who trains for a living, so as for the dog I caan handle my only concern is how early she has started most of my parents dogs dont do this kind of thing till 4 or 5 months so she may be a tough one
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24-05-2007, 08:31 AM
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o yeah and this is my first bandog I have always had beagles before this so this is all new to me
I actually do worry for people when they say this is my 'first' whatever when they've usually only been used to something totally different. I've kept large Mastiffs and other large breeds as pets for a long time but I wouldn't say I was experienced enough to handle a dog that I had never owned before as every dog and breed is different. I've known experienced Bandogge people whom have been with these dogs for years encounter problems, a friend of mine was mauled by one after owning them for 9 years.
Get her into socialisation classes straight away to nip whatever she is doing in the bud straight away as before you know it you will have a powerful dog that thinks it rules the roost.
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25-05-2007, 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Heldengebroed View Post
Sorry but a trained dog is much safer than an untrained one.

Can you do a recall on yours when he goes for something with in the last meter?
Do you know when your dog is ready to attack or just interested in something?
Do you know how your dog reacts to serious treaths?

I train Belgian ring (Policedogtraining) and i have never found evidence of such a dog biting, except if necessary (burglar) or a training accident.

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Belgian Ring you missed out the sport part. It maybe based on police dog training but dont think it ever makes them a police dog
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25-05-2007, 10:12 PM
Originally Posted by Nicci_L View Post
I actually do worry for people when they say this is my 'first' whatever when they've usually only been used to something totally different. I've kept large Mastiffs and other large breeds as pets for a long time but I wouldn't say I was experienced enough to handle a dog that I had never owned before as every dog and breed is different. I've known experienced Bandogge people whom have been with these dogs for years encounter problems, a friend of mine was mauled by one after owning them for 9 years.
Get her into socialisation classes straight away to nip whatever she is doing in the bud straight away as before you know it you will have a powerful dog that thinks it rules the roost.
the bandogge may be dominat and powerful but I think the "week" beagle has prepaired me for this. have you ever trained a beagle, it nearly impossible it takes contsant work non stop night and day, but the beautiful thing is even though they are stuborn and known to try to be domiinate once they learn they never forget and I think its becuz of there intelegents and judging by what I'v seen with my parents dogs other than size there isnt much difference they both thrive on love they both will protect and they both have a gamieness to them
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26-05-2007, 07:00 AM
A beagle isn't going to do the same amount of damage if it decides it's not a happy bunny.
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26-05-2007, 09:54 AM
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the bandogge may be dominat and powerful but I think the "week" beagle has prepaired me for this. have you ever trained a beagle, it nearly impossible it takes contsant work non stop night and day, but the beautiful thing is even though they are stuborn and known to try to be domiinate once they learn they never forget and I think its becuz of there intelegents and judging by what I'v seen with my parents dogs other than size there isnt much difference they both thrive on love they both will protect and they both have a gamieness to them
I think you may be looking at the Bandogge through rose tinted spectacles. I'm sure if you search the threads on here you will come across owners of Bandogges whom have possibly posted about problems they have encountered with them. You posted asking for advice about training a puppy whom is displaying worrying behaviour at a very young age taking into account her breeding I myself would be extremely worried if this was allowed to carry on they are not puppies for a long time, by the time she is one year old although not fully grown or matured she will be an extremely powerful animal and nowhere near on the same level as a Beagle.
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26-05-2007, 10:56 AM
It sounds like a display of dominence, maybe through fear.

The dog doesn't like the arguing, and could be getting frightened, it wants the arguing to stop and the only way it knows how is to try and break it up, by shutting one (or both) of you up - through his own aggressive behaviour.

Jmo.

I also, don't think a well trained well disciplined dog in responsible hands is a danger - the danger arises out of idiots who own them.
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26-05-2007, 04:24 PM
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hey all'
I have an american bandog boxer X neo mastiff and shes 8 weeks old I have nursed her since birth,
Hi, can I just mention regardless of anything else, has your young dog been socialised with other dogs? Lots of them as opposed to just a few?

Reason I ask is because dogs who are hand reared tend to miss out on the dog socialisation which is so important, if your dog hasn't been dog-dog socialised I'd look in to that literally as if it were yesterday as you can't afford to wait.

Optimum period for dog-dog is up to approx. 6/7 weeks :smt001

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26-05-2007, 08:03 PM
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Belgian Ring you missed out the sport part. It maybe based on police dog training but dont think it ever makes them a police dog

No they are better. Our rejects are sold abroad to policefores and they have their hands full with them, because they are to strong and better trained than thier handlers.

Besides the program is the origin of patroldog training. Except civil bites and crowd control there is nothing a policedog can do that our dogs can't do. I know because i train on a regular basis with policedog handlers and they sometimes challange us

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03-06-2007, 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Heldengebroed View Post
No they are better. Our rejects are sold abroad to policefores and they have their hands full with them, because they are to strong and better trained than thier handlers.

Besides the program is the origin of patroldog training. Except civil bites and crowd control there is nothing a policedog can do that our dogs can't do. I know because i train on a regular basis with policedog handlers and they sometimes challange us

Greetings

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Arent your dogs equipment based, how would you know your dog would bite a drunk man with no top on, if he isnt standing with a bite suit on or a sleeve. I do agree some handlers do have their hands full with some of these dogs but that is down to the selection of the handlers by their respective police forces.
How do the police dog handlers challenge you.
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