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04-03-2009, 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by SKing87 View Post
(by the way i apologise in advance if anyone takes offense to that comment about dogs who bite people being put to sleep. provoked attacks are different, but spontanious attacks on humans and other dogs are not acceptable!)
I totally agree with this. I have always said that if one of my dogs bites for no reason, it will be put down, however, if it is provoked and it bites, then it won't be.
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04-03-2009, 03:10 PM
isnt the law if they are over an age when the ban came in they have to be muzzled we have friends in the states and they have them and are great dogs its not the breed its the owners we get loads of flack for having rotties dont get me wrong they can be nasty but in the right hands they are a great family dog but they will always protect u thats when good owners get in trouble letting them get away with things we treat them hard but fair and never let them do things they shouldnt other than sleep on bed at night lol
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04-03-2009, 03:17 PM
i would be mortified if any of my dogs bit somebody, provoked or otherwise.

how this guy just walked off with a "nevermind" attitude, ive no idea.
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04-03-2009, 03:20 PM
theirs people out their that dont understand its not they dont care they just dont understand a dog can kill another dog or a human
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04-03-2009, 03:50 PM
Up here if the dogs are all off lead then its fair game if sommit kicks off the police don't deal with it if the dogs are off, still sounds to me like the dog is young and vocal, I know a lot of dogs that run up to us barking and growling till they meet face to face then all goes quiet and the tails start wagging, think the fact that you think it was a pit bull has sent the fear of death through you and your aunty ( misconceptions of a breed ), my Shar pei was scarred across her face and nose by a spaniel, she was attacked by an off lead GSD too and ended up with 39 staples, both attacks were unprovoked, I was bitten and bruised by the GSD in its attempts to kill Suki, the dog wasn't attacking me, picking dogs up will only cause a more curious reaction from any dog, if there had been a kid there the dog would probably have ignored the child, doesn't sound like it was interested in the humans at all...
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04-03-2009, 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Schuh View Post
That guy sounds dangerous. I know it isn't the dogs fault, but imagine if that were a toddler that he bit and not your aunty.

I would most definitey inform the police. He should not be allowed to keep dogs.

My good friends father was attacked not so long ago by a dog off the lead and this is how he ended up http://www.birminghammail.net/news/t...7319-20920954/

We pick up our GSD from a rescue centre on Saturday, and would not dream of taking her out unless I had proper control of her.

Some people are just too lazy, selfish, or ignorant to properly handle their pets.

I hope you, your aunt and your pups are okay though. x
omg that poor man, I hope hes recoverd,
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04-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Up here if the dogs are all off lead then its fair game if sommit kicks off the police don't deal with it if the dogs are off, still sounds to me like the dog is young and vocal, I know a lot of dogs that run up to us barking and growling till they meet face to face then all goes quiet and the tails start wagging,
Errr...I'd be pretty mortified if my dog went up to someone barking and growling. It is NOT acceptable to let a dog behave like that. I hate to say it, but it is people who think that dogs behaving like this is acceptable who are the ones responsible for the anti-dog hysteria. Out of the control dogs are the reason dogs get banned from places. It only takes a couple of complaints from a couple of people who are intimidated by aggressive/out of control dogs before rules, bans and restrictions are put in place.

Bull breeds are and do nip when excited, especially if they are young, and a nip is still sore even through a jacket, I should know believe me if it had wanted to bite it would have caused some serious damage ...
Again, this is totally unacceptable. I love dogs, but if a dog of ANY breed came up to me and started growling, snapping and nipping, that dog would get my boot up its ****, the owner would get a bollocking and the dog warden and (in the case of injury) the police would be involved.

The fact is, this dog should NOT have been off the lead. It is downright dangerous and I hope the OP reported this to the police.
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04-03-2009, 04:09 PM
having read the thread, I have to say the comments about, it could have hurt a child, gone for there face and so on...

assuming a child is not in control of a dog, I see no reason for the dog to be a threat to people or kids,
just because a dog doesnt get on with other dogs {if that is the case} does not mean it is aggressive to people or children,

yes the OP's auntie was nipped, but I dont think from what they have said that it was intentional,

all in all, it was a silly thing for the chap to let his dog bounce up to people and scare them,

but also, a bull breed wanting to do damage would do it, a leap to grab a dog in someones arms is well within there ability

If I were the OP I would keep an eye out for this chap and have a chat to him if poss, it could be the dog is aggressive, then give him hell, or it could be a very OTT young dog, but still he should take on board people can be scared by this and deal with it.
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04-03-2009, 04:12 PM
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Errr...I'd be pretty mortified if my dog went up to someone barking and growling. It is NOT acceptable to let a dog behave like that. I hate to say it, but it is people who think that dogs behaving like this is acceptable who are the ones responsible for the anti-dog hysteria. Out of the control dogs are the reason dogs get banned from places. It only takes a couple of complaints from a couple of people who are intimidated by aggressive/out of control dogs before rules, bans and restrictions are put in place..
some breeds are just more vocal than others so in some dogs its pretty much the norm to be talky, many young dogs will bark due to being nervy of new situations,

that said no one should be letting there dogs run out of control.
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04-03-2009, 04:17 PM
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Up here if the dogs are all off lead then its fair game if sommit kicks off the police don't deal with it if the dogs are off, still sounds to me like the dog is young and vocal, I know a lot of dogs that run up to us barking and growling till they meet face to face then all goes quiet and the tails start wagging,
In my view, there is no excuse for highly aroused dogs to be running up to other dogs. It's not only bad manners and just asking for a dog fight (big or small), it is frightening for owners and could be a precursor to a fight which could injure or cause fear aggression.
think the fact that you think it was a pit bull has sent the fear of death through you and your aunty ( misconceptions of a breed ),
A friend of mine had a pit bull who was really sweet . But although they are usually fine with humans, I'd not want one near my dogs if it was actually aroused in a very excited manner. (That goes for any dog, not just a pit bull, but in this case the OP thinks it happens to be a PB ).

picking dogs up will only cause a more curious reaction from any dog, if there had been a kid there the dog would probably have ignored the child, doesn't sound like it was interested in the humans at all...

I kind of agree, but if you are afraid for your dog, it may even be the best option, particularly if as an owner you have no idea whether the other dog in question is or is not likely to pile in or not.

I'd only say it's a good idea if there is a highly aroused dog charging around which may be aggressive.

Not if it's just loose dogs off lead as there are loads of those and it's great to see dogs socialising. But very hightly aroused ones - no. I'd protect my dog if I thought something might get ugly.

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PS by the term "highly aroused dogs" I should say I'm referring to adult dogs, running in with "intention" ....
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