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10-03-2007, 01:38 AM
And some of the attacks that are print will blame a pit bull. I've had my dogs taken off a plane when travelling back from Melbourne after going to a specially show, the luggage handlers had lifted the crate covers up to have a look at the dogs and they thought they were pit bulls even though there was signs saying that these dogs are bull terriers with a picture of a bull terrier on it so no mistakes could be made, and it wasn't until I was back in Tassie waiting for them to be unloaded that I was told that they were still in Melb.
I'm not saying they would never attack, but I think they get the blame far more than any other breed.
Most people wont even know what a pure bred Pit Bull Terrier looks like and in a line up of dogs with similar features as a pit bull would pick the wrong dog
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10-03-2007, 01:54 AM
Originally Posted by Sal 
How many of us have had children approach our dogs and try and give it a cuddle without asking?
But I get your point - lots of kids just throw themselves on him without asking - sometimes before I get a chance to properly supervise.
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10-03-2007, 06:00 AM
Originally Posted by Minihaha
SBT the Atts test statistics have no relevance at all as far as I am concerned, how can you make a comparison when the number of dogs tested varies from 1 to over 1000 in any one particular breed.
Take just one breed Sealyham Terriers, they tested just one dog and from this they deduced the bred was 100% reliable. If you wish to do a comparable study on breed temperaments you need to test a similar number of dogs from each breed.
Originally Posted by Minihaha
Hayley I think the statistics you have posted have little relevance, they are produced by an organisation calling itself The National Canine Research Council and they are dedicated to promoting PBT, just look at the links page.
They cannot be compared with official fatality statistics produced by The Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) which is an agency of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
As the British Prime Minister Disraeli once said: "There are lies sir... there are lies, and then there are damned statistics!". I'ld much rather have the statistics than the lies!
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10-03-2007, 06:23 AM
Are Pit Bull Terriers Dangerous? Last week I would have said they were no more dangerous than any other breed, now as the result of looking into statistics I would say yes they are.
minihaha if your decision that Pit Bull Terriers are Dangerous is based on looking at some statistics I think you should reconsider,
The more I learn about Pit Bulls the sadder I see this whole situation is for them.
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10-03-2007, 08:40 AM
That speaks volumes about the parents and the child, NOT about the dog.
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10-03-2007, 09:38 AM
Originally Posted by SBT
I agree the numbers of dogs do very but there were 542 American Pit Bulls tested 456 passed, all the different statistics we have looked at can only be a guide non of them are concrete evidence one way or another, statistics always have other influences that need to be taken into account, what do statistics mean, not a lot.
As the British Prime Minister Disraeli once said: "There are lies sir... there are lies, and then there are damned statistics!". I'ld much rather have the statistics than the lies!
Originally Posted by SBT
minihaha your post near the beginning of this thread
Are Pit Bull Terriers Dangerous? Last week I would have said they were no more dangerous than any other breed, now as the result of looking into statistics I would say yes they are.
minihaha if your decision that Pit Bull Terriers are Dangerous is based on looking at some statistics I think you should reconsider,
The more I learn about Pit Bulls the sadder I see this whole situation is for them.
We are told by some that PBTs are extremely 'human friendly' and 'child friendly' , but what about PBTs that have never been socialise with children, are we to believed that this breed above all others is an exception and less likely to attack children than any other breed?
SBT I think that is obvious to most people, I guess you are saying it isn't to you.
This thread is a follow on from a thread in which HalyleySBT stated..
If I had small children and I heard a family was moving next door to me with an unsocialised dog I would be much more scared if it was a PBT than a collie.
I think if there was a confrontational situation where the unsocialised dog was scared or stressed beyond its level of tolerance and 'flight or fight' came into play the collie would be more likely to run and hide,the PBT to fight.
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10-03-2007, 09:43 AM
1) Due to PB's reputation and build they attract the wrong kind of owner
2) There are cases of PB's killing without previously showig any signs of aggression
So what is the safest way forward for both people and the breed?
Becky
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