That's your personal opinion - if he agree's with Cesar then that's his. It's good that you are suggesting other methods but just because he uses a different training method doesn't make it disturbing.

Agree with Hali. It is a shame but it seems that you are well prepared

As for Cesar well....... as Hali said look at some other threads and you will see. I personally like him and the majority of his methods.

Hope everything goes well with the pup

I'm going to be really blunt.............They should have considered the possibilities BEFORE they bred for any chance that the Bitch "might" reject the pups and so making them surrogate mum Seems to me they can't really be bothered and the pups will suffer as a result. There are quite a few breeders on here that i have absolutely no doubt, given the same circumstances would suck it up and get on with it no matter how tired they are because they are ethical people that care.

Jann

Sorry i also meant to say

Welcome to Dogsey, and i really hope everything goes well with your pup


Jann
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CM, and his methods being a miracle worker is debatable , but lets not go down that road shall we.




I am guessing the pups are around 3/4 wks old.... and I am also guessing the breeders of said pups has not bred before.. other wise she/he would know that around 3/4 wks old... they are normally starting to be weaned....

What you are describing is NORMAL...she is NOT rejecting them.... it is a natural progression in their development.

The owners SHOULD be weaning the pups off the dam now, but not just puppy milk, , but solid food, the pups at 4 wks old are old enough now to start taking solids,

As for the owner not being able to cope any more, they should have thought of that before they allowed the bitch to whelp her pups.

Any breeder will tell you for the 8wks involved rearing pups, it is a 24 hr job.... the older the pups get, the harder the work...as weaning is a very a consuming time... as along as feeding the pups , you will have to start cleaning up after them as their mum will no longer clean up their mess once they are on solid food.

So if you wish your pup to be healthy , then you should inform the breeder that puppy milk is not enough , they need solid food.

There is no reason for these pups to be removed from their dam till they are at least 7 wks, preferably 8... the extra weeks is not just down to being with mum, but crucial for socailistaion amongst themselves.

If you ignore the advice given here, thats up to you, but statistically dogs removed to early from the litter can end up with behavioural problems...and given the mix of these pups, that would be the last thing you want


This pup must stay with its litter mates, removing it to early will be detrimental....YOU can not give it what it needs.... dont know how plainer we can tell you that.



Why do you think they are in danger of being given to people who want aggression in their dogs.... are the parents of the pups aggressive.

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It seems already the breeder is not particular in homing them, if they are willing to give them away NOW

I hope those people get their dog neutered after this. This is exactly the scenario that makes me believe all pet dogs should be neutered.

Does anyone know why I can't see the OP?

Thanks alot The dog will hit 5 weeks old tomorrow which is when I'm going to get it. I've spoken to my local vet about it and the situation and she said the best thing I can do is feed it puppy powder(milk form) 4 times a day, sleep with it in the same room for reassurance and be there for it when possible. I've taken the vets advice and will keep you all updated

I'll even upload some pictures tomorrow

hi cesar

have you seen both parents?

do you know for certain the pup is half shar pei, half staffie?

I had the same thing with Pharaoh, his mum rejected thalf the litter of pups at 4 weeks, Pharaoh among them, she had had an enormous litter and had just decided enough was enough. The poor man contacted the dog warden who contacted me and a few others she knew who were looking for pups and we each took two to finish weaning...

When I first got them home Pharaoh and his sister Bizkit(Then Cleo) had 6 meals a day, two puppy formula, two gruel and two mush puppy food, then gradually we took him down to 4 meals, 2 milk two puppy food and gradually raised the crunchy biscuit content of his solid meals...

For the first 4 weeks he suffered from the most horrific night terrors. Clearly to do with losing his Mum and siblings, he would wake up screaming in the night, not crying, but a full throated scream he wouldn't settle until he was cuddled up against you his little feet kneeding away like a cat.

Cleo went to live with my friend and her 4 yr old daughter called her Bizkit. It became clear to me quickly that two pups from the same litter was double trouble! After a couple of years my friend could no longer look after Bizkit and I took her back and she went to live with my Mum.

All my plans for not on the bed went out the window as the only way to get even a few unbroken hours of sleep was to have it with him.

He is still my cuddle pup now and if scared by anything, thunder, or fireworks, I still have a huge trembling lurcher on my lap head under my arm wrapped in a blankie! It's a bond like no other, but i still would not recommend it and would never take a pup so young again! Well... Unless it really needed me... They were sooooo cute!

Yeah. The father's owner is an old friend of mine.