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10-11-2011, 10:33 PM
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Its a tricky one I think. We discourage prospective dog owners from giving in to the temptation to 'rescue' a puppy farm puppy by buying it, as it just creates a space for a new one.

However there are rescues that provide a convenient dumping ground for the farmers do they don't have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Doesn't this equally just create a space for a new dog and make it easier for the farmers to continue?

What are the laws on destroying dogs? Would it be legal for them to just be shot?
No one would ever know..
And i am sure they dont waste cartrdges when they have spades and water buckets around..
Long may rescues take on these dogs ...
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10-11-2011, 10:36 PM
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No one would ever know..
And i am sure they dont waste cartrdges when they have spades and water buckets around..
Long may rescues take on these dogs ...

I'm not really judging the rescues, just saying its not a black and white situation, I know how I'd react if some horrible excuse for a human being showed up at my door with an ex breeder in a state.

Really, the only people who can change it are the councils and the government, if they wanted to make it happen they could close down most within weeks I expect.
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10-11-2011, 10:53 PM
Originally Posted by Larrabee View Post
Its a tricky one I think. We discourage prospective dog owners from giving in to the temptation to 'rescue' a puppy farm puppy by buying it, as it just creates a space for a new one.

However there are rescues that provide a convenient dumping ground for the farmers do they don't have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Doesn't this equally just create a space for a new dog and make it easier for the farmers to continue?

What are the laws on destroying dogs? Would it be legal for them to just be shot?
Are there? Or are there rescie who try to rescue dogs that have been bred almost to death from a spade to know some sort of love? Do you honestly think that a rescue taking in an ex breeder clears up a space for another - do you really think a these puppy farmer could give a damn between the difference between a bullet or a rescue.

I dont mean to be rude but what experience do YOU have of the rescues that work so hard to save these porr dogs?
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10-11-2011, 10:55 PM
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Are there? Or are there rescie who try to rescue dogs that have been bred almost to death from a spade to know some sort of love? Do you honestly think that a rescue taking in an ex breeder clears up a space for another - do you really think a these puppy farmer could give a damn between the difference between a bullet or a rescue.

I dont mean to be rude but what experience do YOU have of the rescues that work so hard to save these porr dogs?

You're reading my post the wrong way entirely. From the perspective of the puppy farmer they are dumping grounds. Yes, they do clear a space for another, that's just a sad fact of puppy farms. They don't stop breeding bichons or schnauzers because one bitch gets too old, another will take its place having litter after litter.

Please also read what I wrote in response to Murf.

I have two rescue dogs but neither of them are ex breeders.
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10-11-2011, 10:56 PM
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I'm not really judging the rescues, just saying its not a black and white situation, I know how I'd react if some horrible excuse for a human being showed up at my door with an ex breeder in a state.

Really, the only people who can change it are the councils and the government, if they wanted to make it happen they could close down most within weeks I expect.
See my previous post - you are judging.

You say its not black and white so ok what would you rather the rescues do?
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10-11-2011, 10:57 PM
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See my previous post - you are judging.

You say its not black and white so ok what would you rather the rescues do?

I'm sorry, I thought this was a discussion?

Nevermind.
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10-11-2011, 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Larrabee View Post
You're reading my post the wrong way entirely. From the perspective of the puppy farmer they are dumping grounds. Yes, they do clear a space for another, that's just a sad fact of puppy farms. They don't stop breeding bichons or schnauzers because one bitch gets too old, another will take its place having litter after litter.

Please also read what I wrote in response to Murf.

I have two rescue dogs but neither of them are ex breeders.
Again I ask what would you rather rescues do? How are they a dumping ground? Do you really think these puppy farmers turn up at rescues and say can you save this dog from a spade around its head? It really doesnt happen like that.

I ask again what is your experience of what goes on and what is your involvement in the rescues that do this?
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10-11-2011, 11:02 PM
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I'm sorry, I thought this was a discussion?

Nevermind.
Of course its a discussion which is why I asked you to discuss it and give us your knowlegde and opinions on it - if you didnt want any input from others its not a discussion is it?
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10-11-2011, 11:02 PM
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Again I ask what would you rather rescues do? How are they a dumping ground? Do you really think these puppy farmers turn up at rescues and say can you save this dog from a spade around its head? It really doesnt happen like that.

I ask again what is your experience of what goes on and what is your involvement in the rescues that do this?


You're being pretty aggressive.
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10-11-2011, 11:03 PM
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Again I ask what would you rather rescues do? How are they a dumping ground? Do you really think these puppy farmers turn up at rescues and say can you save this dog from a spade around its head? It really doesnt happen like that.

I ask again what is your experience of what goes on and what is your involvement in the rescues that do this?
yes some puppy farmers do that
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