wonder what the white rings are???
eeek doesnt bear thinking about but thanks to you Laura I now have a mental image of a zebra willy - black with white rings eeeeurghyakkkkkk :smt078

I think it's a question all parents should answer.......would you let your kids go and stay there ??? the thing is thess kids can't see him as an idol as most of them are too young to even know who he is ...... sorry but I DO blame some of the parents

Not forgetting the incident where he dangled his kid over the balcony of a 7th floor hotel room, my heart was in my mouth.

Regardless of what has been said & done I dont believe he is fit to look after children, based on that even and the way they are treated (wearing veils etc). I mean getting back to the balcony incident if this was just a normal single father from say Easterhouse in Glasgow who did this and also made his kids wear veils I can guarantee the Social Work would have had those kids away and the father done for something...so I guess money gives him the freedom to do as he wants....

i feel so sorry for the poor kids having to wear those masks
what kind of complex are they going to grow up with? who knows what kind of permanent mental scars they will bear from leading such a weird and isolated life?
I grew up on a farm in the middle of nowherre so I should know!!
I used to hide under the table if visitors came and wouldnt speak to people, did that until I was about 6 and couldnt fit under the table any more and I had to come out and learn to be sociable

that explains a lot CBT but then I cant really say much either because I had the same.....infact that probably explains A LOT too lol.

lol I think we were both badly socialised as puppies then?

Yep, I bring shame on the family lol.

me too, black sheep all the way.
my family all think they are sane and I am the crazy one, and I think its the other way round

Another one here grew up under the table with the dog..its a wonder we don't have a foot fixation


I think the whole thing is very sad and there will be no winners
MJ has clearly had a very strange and troubled childhood, I think he missed out on being a child. As for the children in the case it must all be very traumatic for them too. I have not followed the case but would guess it is unlikely the full truth either way will ever be known...money does strange things to justice in the USA ...

I think he has a childs mentality,and is re living his childhood through these kids...