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07-01-2010, 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Jodie View Post
What exactly does my distaste for healthy greyhounds - deemed surplus to requirements - being used for dissection and research by the racing/gambling industry, have to do with me taking my dogs to a vet?

You like those exclamation marks don't you?
The fact you take your dog to a vet and expect a specialised service, from said vet in any surgical or intricate procedure, will have had a lot to do with the "surplus of greyhounds used in all veterinary universities...

You are happy to benifit from a vets experience, yet have a problem with how he gains it!!

Oops, there I go again with the exclamation marks!
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07-01-2010, 06:35 PM
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I suspect its because you have a vested interest in greyhound racing, unlike the galgos of Spain.
Or it may be because they are actually treated worse Spain is lack on their animal right rules IMHO and these dogs need a lot of help and support, there is no real governing body, or any thing put in place to protect these dogs, from what I know they don't have papers, or need anything to id them.
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07-01-2010, 07:07 PM
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What have I told you about assuming? Its very dangerous and yet again you have assumed wrongly.
Utter garbage!

The industry is self regulated and as such deal with all breaches of the law internally, which is why the RSPCA do not intervene - they simply report a situation to the GBGB. The RSPCA responded to the recent consultation on the welfare of greyhounds and like 12,000 other respondents, they wanted independent regulation - which would effectively lift the wall of protection the government presently afford the industry.
Again, rubbish. If the RSPCA thought there was extensive cruelty they would REVEL in the publicity, it njust doesnt happen to the extent you obviously would like to think!

PETA have openly provided those figures and do not claim - as you wrongly state - they do not destroy healthy dogs. I think you must be assuming yet again because the industry hide the numbers of destroyed dogs - so does everyone else.
Do not destroy healthy dogs? You need to read more carefully my dear!

Why not?
When I saw it was a pop video I turned it off!
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07-01-2010, 07:08 PM
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And not surprisingly but also your flippant attitude and lack of concern towards 1000's of dogs being destroyed - regardless by whom and for what reason shows your lack of compassion for animals - shame on you!
Get over it Jodie, I couldnt give a flying monkeys about what you think of me, not one, at all whatsoever!
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07-01-2010, 07:10 PM
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Its called sticking to the topic and not being drawn into a debate on another issue - tactics which are consistently used after failed attempts to defend this exploitative industry .
Yet all your ranting has got you where? Nowhere, and why? because half of what you type is rubbish! You guess and estimate everything, yet everyone else must produce figures down to the exact precise number. Do me a favour!
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07-01-2010, 07:31 PM
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Charles Pickering bred 198 pups between June 2005 and May 2006 – only 90 of those pups were named and a mere 46 went on to race on licensed tracks – just 23%!!!!!
Where did the other 152 pups go????

Where do you get a figure of 198 pups from? Link...? If the figure of 152 pups is correct then you cannot assume that they were sent to a university. Still no fan of the fella and to breed (if you can substantiate this claim) 198 pups in one year with as little experience of breeding racing dogs as he has it's more than a little sad


I’ve never seen any good factual evidence of the University denying they had dealings with Pickering – where is the article?

Article? I don't think anyone would write a one sentence article that a university has denied ever having dealings with C of the Zigzag kennels.

Please supply good factual evidence to substantiate your claim regarding PETA. Whatever – PETA do not irresponsibly breed 1000’s of dogs every year. The 1000’s of greyhounds discarded by this exploitative gambling industry only exasperates the numbers of shelter dogs who cannot be re-homed. Shoot me down in flames but I would rather see no healthy animal being destroyed, least of all to provide a gambling medium and huge profits for the bookmakers.

I can't be arsed to spend my evening putting up links for you, you're happy enough to trawl the internet for mud to sling at the greyhound industry so go and google Peta. In an ideal world so would I, unfortunately millions of healthy animals are killed each day whether for food, a by product of the dairy industry or surplus to requirements of man as a pet.

You just want to deflect away from the over breeding of greyhounds – stick to the topic please.

No, it's relevent to the topic. The 'waste' as you call if from the greyhound industry is a drop in the ocean compared with the 'waste' from the pet 'industry'.

Your ethics and morals are questionable - particularly as they protect your own self serving interests in seeing the continuation of greyhound racing. My ethics and morals serve to protect innocent creatures from abuse, neglect and destruction.

If you say so.

I like to think I have a great sense of humour – I just find nothing within greyhound racing laughable but this brings more than a smile to my face
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCITD_Hi3tU
Little to do with the above, but I thought of this thread earlier, I was throwing a ball for Skye and she was chasing hell for leather after it and bringing it back, then I noticed some blood in the snow, if it hadn't been for the snow I don't think I would have noticed but on checking her she'd split her stopper pad, she must have struck into it with her hind leg, so, my doggy was injured and she isn't a racing greyhound, yet neither of my greys have suffered this injury on the track or in training. Perhaps I should have a vet on site when I throw a ball for my dog next time, or perhaps I shoudn't even throw the ball, didn't you say I shouldn't knowingly put my dog at risk of injury???

Trust you to like that video! Sure it has you quaking in your boots that not only is Ireland building a new stadium but the news came today that Coventry could be re-opened within weeks.
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07-01-2010, 07:37 PM
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Little to do with the above, but I thought of this thread earlier, I was throwing a ball for Skye and she was chasing hell for leather after it and bringing it back, then I noticed some blood in the snow, if it hadn't been for the snow I don't think I would have noticed but on checking her she'd split her stopper pad, she must have struck into it with her hind leg, so, my doggy was injured and she isn't a racing greyhound, yet neither of my greys have suffered this injury on the track or in training. Perhaps I should have a vet on site when I throw a ball for my dog next time, or perhaps I shoudn't even throw the ball, didn't you say I shouldn't knowingly put my dog at risk of injury???

Trust you to like that video! Sure it has you quaking in your boots that not only is Ireland building a new stadium but the news came today that Coventry could be re-opened within weeks.
We put our dogs at risk just walking down the road, we could be on the path, and there is a risk of a car becoming out of control and mounting the path, espcailly in this weather, dogs can be attacked by other dogs while out on walks, they could fall and injure themselves while being let off, the list is endless, but it would a bit pricey and inconvient to have a vet at all times while doing something as dangerous as walking your dog wouldn't it
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07-01-2010, 07:37 PM
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There is no link, which is why I said 'allegedly'.
What a joke! So you may have just tarnished a mans reputation for no reason.
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07-01-2010, 07:40 PM
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Please supply good factual evidence of this - as I have said before, your unsubstantiated comments does nothing for your credibility. .
You mean like yours regarding Graham Hutt? Pot, kettle, black.
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07-01-2010, 07:42 PM
Thanks Dawn for saving me that search
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