Mish, steady on please. My parents are very old, dad is 90 this year, and mum is 86, and both are not well at the moment.

I am so sorry I put them before Ben's afternoon walk.

Heather and Zak: no, I don't put all this down to 2 zaps of an e collar, I put it all down, as you so nicely put it, to 2 zaps of an e collar plus a hell of a lot of work from OH, and as much as I can manage from me.

I leave the house at sparrow's in the morning, and I never walk back in before 7 pm unless I have had a dental appointment or some such. I spend two hours driving to and from work, and the job I do is very stressful. OH is semi retired, his job is to look after the dogs and do what work he has with his picture framing and websites.

Would you like to explain to me why I am so bad? Making a living?

Instead of letting your jealousy shine through, could you actually try to be happy for Ben - who I can assure you, is a blissfully happy dog at the moment.

Gnasher, why do you think it has had such a magical cure? HOW do you think this has worked and continues to work?

Gnasher, I get why you are angry, but I can tell you honestly noone posting on this thread is jealous of you or Ben
We are concerned for Ben, and concerened for another person reading this who tries your magic cure and ends up with horrendous fallout

Gnasher where the hell have I said you are bad to be making a living? You really do twist things to make yourself look good don't you. There you go delusional again, why on earth would I be jealous, what of? I can never be happy for Ben when he is being abused with an e-collar and with owners that just haven't a clue.

Heather, to answer your question:

MISH said (not you):

"You spend all week working/dumping your dogs on your hubby, then go off again on the weekend,Are these YOUR dogs or your husbands? You spend r little time with them imo. Why didnt yopu take them with you & enjoyu a walk together on the way back?"

That is as plain and clear as a pikestaff to me.

Ben:

just read what I have said, that will answer your question.

I know you are trying to help Ben, but honestly, we are fine!

lol jealous of dogs that dont wag their tails! ummmmm no.PMSL.

no you dont put your dogs first. Thats PITY , not jealousy.
PITY for your dogs & for you.

More pity that the owner does not try to understand the dog.

cant be bothered more like

Ah, I understand my dogs better than you will - because I know them, you don't!