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13-11-2006, 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by spot 
Of course it is there is no such thing as a healthy dog with good temperament in rescue now is there!
of course there is. but there are no guarantees - you are far more likely to get what you're after if you do research and go to a good breeder.
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13-11-2006, 04:37 PM
Originally Posted by Lynn
How can a vet assess the temperament of any dog with regards to behaviour or health without having known its parentage in the first place.
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13-11-2006, 04:37 PM
Originally Posted by AllBreeds
If your gonna take tone!! You obviously don't have a clue
Just because the parents of a dog are healthy and temperament sound does not mean the pups will be too.
If an adult rescue dog has been properly temperament tested and health checked you can be sure.
You can't compare a pup to an adult rescue, compare a rescue pup to a bred pup and then make your point.
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13-11-2006, 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by random
AllBreeds
I am currently on a waiting list for a Weimaraner bitch pup for very good lines, I will have to wait untill AT LEAST 2008 for her as the waiting list is that long.
I want to show her, I want her from 7-8 weeks old and I know she will have been reared with children and cats and other dogs of other breeds, and that she will fit in with my family.
I know that being a Weimaraner, how big she will grow, how muscualr she will get, how much excercise she will need and what her general character and traits are likely to be like.
I have already met her parents. I am satisfied with their temperaments, health checks and looks, build, how they are made up, e.t.c, and that they should give some beautiful babies, and a previous litter has shown this already.
Their breeders will take a dog back at any age, and be there for 24/h support, for life.
I have a 3 year old son, who will then be five, and they will home a pup to me.
I know how to show a Weimaraner, I know people in the show circle, and I have a great time doing this. I really want to show her hence why I am spending so much time and effort now, to make sure I get the right girl for showing, work and family pet.
As I am showing her, I need her to have papers, Obviously.
If you can find me such a dog, from a rescue, I would glady get one from you, but I know you can't, there is no way I would find such a pup in rescue, so rescue is not for me. I don't feel guilty I know ion the future I am likely to re-home another rescue, but for the forseeable future, I will be going to a breeder.
Do you think people should stop showing? Becaus ethere is no way you can get a show dog from rescue as they don't tend to give papers, unless you go to breed specific, and then you have to twist some arms to get them, be lucky enough they are good enough to show, and not neutered!
Excellent post Random
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13-11-2006, 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by AllBreeds
If your gonna take tone!! You obviously don't have a clue
Just because the parents of a dog are healthy and temperament sound does not mean the pups will be too.
If an adult rescue dog has been properly temperament tested and health checked you can be sure.
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13-11-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally Posted by AllBreeds
If your gonna take tone!! You obviously don't have a clue
Just because the parents of a dog are healthy and temperament sound does not mean the pups will be too.
If an adult rescue dog has been properly temperament tested and health checked you can be sure.
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13-11-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally Posted by AllBreeds
Makes you wonder why the owner felt the dog would be better off in rescue.
When I get pedigrees in with paper I always contact the breeder to give them a ticking off but no way would I return one for it to be sold on again
Perhaps the owner is "ashamed" to have failed the dog?
Lost the details?
Why does the breeder deserve a "ticking off"?
Most breeders I know who have dogs returned do not "resell them" they jsut rehome them and are often in a good position to do so having contacts within the breed.
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13-11-2006, 04:39 PM
My rescue dog here, is a total lottery - i wouldn't put it past him to bite at any time, hence I am ALWAYS on my guard with him, despite him having never shown anything but friendliness.
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13-11-2006, 04:44 PM
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13-11-2006, 04:45 PM
A good breeder will take back a pup of any age, and of any temperament, they will have thought it over before breeding what circumstances could arise, and that they would have to deal with it!
An example I have is a good friend of mine had let his dog go to stud on a bitch, he has himself bred litter too. He found that one of the pups, from the bitch his dog went to stud on was going to be returned to the breeder. The breeder took it back at 8 years of age, but as she had had family problems he asked if she wanted him to take in the pup as it was half his responsiblity.
The owner of the bitch kept the returned dog, but for the owner of a stud dog to also assume responsibility of a pup from their dog, THAT is a responsible breeder! So yes, any responsible breeder WOULD ALWAYS take back a pup from their litter, and would always keep in touch with the buyers of pups, so they knew exactly where they were, what they were doing, and how they were getting on. I know my breeder does!
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