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03-06-2011, 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by majuka 
I'm imagining being followed around by a private detective in a trench coat and dark glasses, with a radio link up back to the breeder 'It's ok, she's putting chicken wings in the trolley, but wait a minute, is that a box of Bakers complete going in there too?.......'
That is HILARIOUS
Can just picture it
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03-06-2011, 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by JoedeeUK
Anyone who feeds a commercial diet wouldn't IMHO bean excellent home anyway.
(So all you pet owners who feed commercial foods, KNOW YOUR PLACE).
You can never hope to offer an "excellent home" to a dog (according to at least one person on the planet anyhow).
It is indeed fortunate for us, that the vast majority of breeders, rescue homes etc do not share this opinion.!
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03-06-2011, 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by JoedeeUK
My puppies would not be suitable for "pet"homes so anyone who wanted a"pet"& to feed it commercial food wouldn't be considered in the first place.
Anyone who feeds a commercial diet wouldn't IMHO bean excellent home anyway.
A friend who has Beardies & occasionally breeds the odd litter, will not sell to non raw feeders & she has no problems finding "excellent"homes with like minded owners.
Saying that anyone who feeds commercial dog foods (which I would imagine is the overwhelming majority of dog owners) could not be an "excellent" home is an ever so slight generalization, dont you think?
Thank goodness not all breeders are so elitist!
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03-06-2011, 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by smokeybear
STEP AWAY FROM THE PET FOOD AISLE!
echoes across the supermarket from the tannoy linked to the "eye in the sky" cameras above.....................
One more suggestion though would be someone on the inside of Nectar and clubcards etc who can sell details of exactly what we are buying to breeders
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03-06-2011, 09:54 PM
Originally Posted by TabithaJ
But it goes to a deeper issue which is: who actually owns the dog?
I support raw feeding. But for argument's sake: if I go to a breeder and purchase a dog, then from the moment I take that dog home, he is mine.
Breeders who insist on a specific eating regime are a bit like someone selling a house, and insisting that the new owners don't alter the decor!
Yes, of course it's different as dogs are living creatures but no ONE way of feeding suits ALL dogs and for any breeder to try and dictate what a new owner does AFTER they take the dog home, is IMHO, absurd.
Like you said a dog and house are different in terms of one is living and once is not. But what about all the laws there are of what we cannot do? People may own a house, but there are still plenty things they cannot do inside it. Some people may argue that they should be able to do whatever they want in their house, and maybe so, but there are still laws that decide such things (I know there are no laws on what exact type of food to feed your dog but just trying to make a point). Also, yeah people can decorate a house they own however they like, but if you want to add extensions or whatever to your house, you need to get planning permission etc. Food is IMO a vital part of a dogs life, so the equivalent to building an extension
The point I am trying to make is that there are rules and regulations in most aspects of life, and while you may own something it doesn’t mean you are necessarily free to do whatever you want with it.I still also think it is important to remember that if you dislike what a breeder says or wants you to do, then just find a different breeder.
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03-06-2011, 10:13 PM
Originally Posted by lozzibear
I personally don’t agree with that. Yes, once you buy a dog it is yours, but the breeder is the person who brought the dog into the world, and IMO a decent breeder will want to know what is happening to that dog for the rest of its life. IMO, it shouldn’t be the case that once money has exchanged hands, the breeder has no interest in the dogs. If someone chooses to bring a dog into the world, then they should want the very best for that dog for the rest of the dogs life. If they think a certain type or way to feed is the best, then why shouldn’t they want that to be how that dog is fed?
Like you said a dog and house are different in terms of one is living and once is not. But what about all the laws there are of what we cannot do? People may own a house, but there are still plenty things they cannot do inside it. Some people may argue that they should be able to do whatever they want in their house, and maybe so, but there are still laws that decide such things (I know there are no laws on what exact type of food to feed your dog but just trying to make a point). Also, yeah people can decorate a house they own however they like, but if you want to add extensions or whatever to your house, you need to get planning permission etc. Food is IMO a vital part of a dogs life, so the equivalent to building an extension
The point I am trying to make is that there are rules and regulations in most aspects of life, and while you may own something it doesn’t mean you are necessarily free to do whatever you want with it.I still also think it is important to remember that if you dislike what a breeder says or wants you to do, then just find a different breeder.
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03-06-2011, 10:32 PM
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03-06-2011, 10:42 PM
Originally Posted by labradork
Surely your own dogs are "pets", so if you never sold one to a "pet" home (given that most competition dogs, etc, are pets first and foremost), where on earth do they go?
Saying that anyone who feeds commercial dog foods (which I would imagine is the overwhelming majority of dog owners) could not be an "excellent" home is an ever so slight generalization, don't you think?
Thank goodness not all breeders are so elitist!
I'm not elitist, but I do not want any dog I breed to end up in a rescue, being rehomed or PTS because he/she is owned by someone who is not able to give him/her enough mental exercise/training/work & only wants a dog to walk, play with & have lay around the rest of the time
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03-06-2011, 10:46 PM
Originally Posted by labradork
Because feeding is SUBJECTIVE and what someone thinks is 'best' is based on pure OPINION and not fact. What they think in no way reflects what I think, so why should I be dictated to based on something that is strictly opinion and not fact?
As you are so anti this"restriction"your course of action is simple-don't buy such a puppy-QED
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